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plifter

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posted February 05, 2001 01:31 PM

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I'm doing a cutting cycle and all I want to do is retain mass and strength, I'm not really looking for gains off of this cycle. I was going to do some test with t3. I was wondering if I only used 100mg/week if my natural test levels would completely shut down. Any one have any ideas. I know that doesn't sound like a high dose but I am pretty sensitive to test. I make great gains from 200mg/wk


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Solid Steel

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posted February 05, 2001 01:41 PM

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In general 200mgs/wk for a period of 2 weeks has been shown to shut down natural test, so on 100mgs you are safer, but why bother trying to prevent natural shut down, just get some clomid.

I do not believe 100mgs/ wk is enough to spare all muscle tissue while on a cutting cycle.

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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted February 05, 2001 02:06 PM

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Taken straight from the mouth of world reknowned guru Bill Roberts..."With 100mgs/week of injected testosterone,most men experience about a 50% drop in natural test production,and at 200mgs/week,that figure increases to more like 75%.In a moderate to heavy steroid cycle,testosterone production drops to zero,EVEN IF YOU USE CLOMID.Figure the 100mg/week level to be allowing production,but still being somewhat suppressive.Figure about 50mgs/week to be a point where inhibition is pretty minimal."
So to answer your question,yes you could get away with 100mgs week,and still be producing your own test,although it will still be somewhat partially compromised...


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Solid Steel

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posted February 05, 2001 02:20 PM

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Mr FINNaplex I was reffering to using clomid post cycle and going on a much higher amount of test during his T3 cutting cycle. Personally I dont use clomid during my cycle unless I dont have any nolva, proviron or armidex on hand and I dont like what I am experiencing


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