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 this water and bloat is killin me!!!help!!
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 215 |
fellas, somebody give me some advice(diuretic)or somethin else for this shit!this cycle is makin me blow up!after i eat my stomach gets so bloated i can barely breath.my face looks like somebody pumped 5 gallons of water in it!the pumps are awesome(too awesome) and strength is insane but other then that i feel like shit!tired, sore and bloated!somebody help me before i fuckin pop!    | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 435 |
start taking some nolva, but it will hurt the gains maybe even run some clomid. Personally that happened to me while I was on anadrol but it will go away but it sucks losing 15lbs of water and is funny looking having your head conected to your traps and upper chest  but its fun. Good luckMass Monster  | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 369 |
Yup, you should go with some nolvadex or arimidex. If money isn't an object, then try to get some arimidex. If it is a prob, then go for the much cheaper nolvas. ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 435 |
Yea I agree 100% if you want to take care of it thats the way. But If you don't mind a crash (which really isn't a crash because you will still keep 15-20lbs) just keep pumping if there is no gyno. I gained 39 lbs by the end of my cycle after the anadrol and test but after I pissed out 19 lbs of water over the few weeks after. but it was still cool but I really enjoyed that water weight but thats just me, being really large is fun! Mass Monster | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 215 |
yes i do believe it is the abombs!try being short as me goin through this shit! 5'5 at 216 as of today. what really sucks is people staring and talking shit!just yesterday at the gym this guy was talking to his buddy's and as i walked past them he goes i know i couldn't get that big naturally!he must of thought he was quiet but i heard him and just turned around and said it looks like you can't get big at all!it must be all the juice cause i normally wouldn't of said anything but one thing i can't stand is little faggots that are jealous and talk shit!! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 215 |
money is no object or i wouldn't have just but 5 kits of gh but i only have enough clomid for post cycle and my supplier took 4fever gettin me this clomid so i am searchin alternatives and was weary of the nolv hindering gains.would a mild diuretic help? | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 369 |
jdabull, I get the same shit at my gym, and all around my little-ass town in general. That's why from now on I'm gonna use arimidex to keep the sudden water retention down. I don't like everyone screaming ROID USER! That's just the thing that could get an iron bro into trouble.....ya know ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 215 |
do you ya think the eq will help at all when it kicks in or what? | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 1015 |
If the water is from the a-bombs, you should stack winny with it to eliminate bloat and other progesterone related sides, arimidex or nolva won't help because they fight or elinate estrogen..which anadrol does not convert to. | ||
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Moderator 
Posts: 6484 |
I have not seen any evidence that would lead me to believe that Nolva hinders gains. In fact, the reason it may look like it is hindering gains is because of the reduction of water in the muscle cells. I would go with 10mg of Nolva EOD since you will probably have problems with your blood pressure if you do not get rid of some of the water. It could be outright unhealthy so use the Nolva. ------------------ Great Information on Injections and Syringes | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 435 |
No bro the eq won't help. I am telling you just ride it out your strength must be going through the roof? how far into your cycle are u bro? Mass Monster | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 192 |
10mg nolvadex | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 215 |
i'm only on 9thday and as of today my bp was very normal thank god!what about adding some winny???and yes strength is amazing-don't usually go heavy on bench too often but trippled 405 for 2 sets though elbows ached afterwards. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 78 |
bro, u need to fucking drink water..like if u don't have a bottle in your hand your gonna die.i walk around with a huge juge..everwhere i go..all day..and i fill that thing probably 10 times..my last cycle i had cramps..and my obliques..were so damn bloated..but no theres a little water retention..and i'm on higher dosages..and different juice.(sos, dbol)..usually i get really bloated.but since someone on this board recommend MORE WATER !!..i've been great..whatever u do don't take a duirectic man you'll cramp up bad! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 215 |
dude i am not stupid i do drink over 2 galls a day | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 14 |
i agree with the guys. nolvadex or provirion or (arimidex expensive) | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 34 |
quote: 2Thick you didnt just say that did you? 'This means that it does not prevent testosterone and its synthetic derivatives (steroids) from converting into estrogens but only fights with them in a sort of "competition" for the estrogen receptors' ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 669 |
Get some dandelion extract from GNC. It's a strong, natural diuretic. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 149 |
arimidax is the answer.this is my first time using it and the difference is amazing.usually i get really fat and bloated during a heavy cycle, not this time.im hard and barely holding any water.ill never do another cycle without arimidax.it seems to cut down on fat accumilation besides keeping water down | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 534 |
e-mail sbc,he'll help you out with arimidex very quick. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 15 |
WHOS SBC? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 215 |
yes sbc was emailed yesterday! | ||
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Moderator
Posts: 6484 |
Solid Steel, Nolvadex only occupies the estrogen receptor so that your natural estrogen does not get to it. This prevents water retention and gyno which is related to high estrogen levels. A minimal amount of estrogen is necessary for healthy growth but the lack of an excess of estrogen will not hinder gains. It will only look like it is hindering gains because it is preventing water retention. BTW- Test does not convert into estrogen per se. It induces estrogen production (although the process is much more complicated and could better be explained by biochemist/physiologist). ------------------ Great Information on Injections and Syringes | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 34 |
2Thick I understand about estrogen and related side effects of having high levels and as you said it is of benefit to have certain amount of it. One point I must raise is that water retention will in the end lead to better gains, do you not agree? Water retention will help increase the size of the cell which in turn would allow for better absorption of aminos and glucose. Now if we can get more glucose we will be able to provide for better, longer workouts before becoming tired. If we can also increase muscle size via water we will allow for more aminos to 'get in' to the muscle which should lead to an increase in lbm. Also I think everyone will agree that an increase in water retention will lead to more strength, after all look at any steroid that increases water retention, they are usually the ones that increase a lot of strength as well (dbol, a-bombs, suspension, test) If we can increase strength in the short term, in the long term this will help to increase lbm. Yes? ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 534 |
Nolvadex decrease serum IGF-1 level,so it effects gains negatively,besides indirect water retention mechanism. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 534 |
quote: Testosteron does convert to estrogen.That process called aromatization.Aromatize enzyme removes the 19 methyl from AAS and aromatize the A ring. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 747 |
jdabull, what does your cycle look like | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 747 |
hey, just e-mail me when you get time... | ||
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Moderator
Posts: 6484 |
That is why I said that it does not convert per se. If there is something to occupy the estro receptor then it will not convert automatically. Only when there is an imbalance in the system (such as steroid use). ------------------ Great Information on Injections and Syringes | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 215 |
test e 750mg 8wks;eq 400mg10-12wks.amombs1-2 a day4wks and gh4iusat least 16wks |
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posted February 05, 2001 12:26 AM