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Author | Topic: Mike Tyson Vs. The supposed 6'4 380 pound Greg Kovacs. | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 256 |
who would win the fight? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 364 |
I don't care what anyone says... mike tyson is the baddest mofo on the planet... he would kill lewis if they ever fought. Holyfield only beat tyson because he wrapped him up. Lewis would try to out box him which just can't be done. E ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 95 |
There would be two hits in about two seconds. Tyson hits Kovacs, Kovacs hits the floor. Tyson is a professional fighter, Kovacs a pro. bodybuilder. That's the difference. As far as Tyson being "the baddest mofo on the planet", give me a f*cking break. He lost to the fat ass Buster Douglas and an extremely lighter Holyfield. He's not the best boxer, much less "the baddest mofo on the planet". Of course I know some of you will make "all of the excuses in the world" for him on why he lost those fights. There will surely be more when Lewis kicks his ass too. ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 553 |
Tyson would kick his ass. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 364 |
Screw that, I want Lewis to fly his ass over to europe for a bout with tyson. I will not make any excuses for tyson but he is a man who is MESSED UP IN THE HEAD... i mean PSYCHO. When he gets in the ring he goes for the kill... he will destroy lewis. E ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 256 |
guys....i dont think it would be so lop sided consider this tyson 5'9? 200lbs? kovacs 6'4 nearly TWICE tysons weight what happens when kovacs gets a grip on one of tysons arms? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 553 |
I think Kovacs is a big slow pussy. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 256 |
<<<<<<<PERFECT EXAMPLE<<<<<<<<<< would you let someone who was seven inches shorter and half your weight kick your ass? for me, it would be like someone 5'5 105 lbs trying to kick my ass....yeah right, i'd break him in half, that's not a fight, that's not even warm up weight! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 419 |
The Gracies, who usually weigh under 170 lbs, beat the shit out of of guys sometimes twice their weight and much stronger, they do this all the time! It is simple, a very well trained fighter will beat a non trained individual regardless of the size or strength. The Gracies have had an outstanding offer to fight anyone for years , they even challenged Tyson - he refused cause he knew he would lose. Tyson would destroy Kovacs, any other body builder out there, and any one on this board unless there are some excellent graplers on here. Unless Tyson hit a master Jujitsu guy with his first or second punch(less likely) and took him out it is over for Tyson in under 2 minutes! Down to the the ground and nitey nite. Something for you guys to keep in mind as that test and ego kicks in and you think you are superman, learn to fight or a trained fighter will embarass you. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 269 |
kovacs might be able to find his teeth and have them surgically put back....on second thought...naaaahhhhhh. Tyson ain't anywhere close to being the baddest man on the planet, but I'm fairly confident all his years of punching, gloved or not, have made his hands pretty fucking hard, and we all know how hard he swings. If I recall the story correctly, Tyson got into it with cormier back when Cormier was a bouncer. He just open hand slapped Cormier on the back of his head and that was enough to make him not want any of Tyson. He said he felt like he got hit in the back of the head by a slapjack. ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 256 |
granted, a trained fighter will have an edge over an untrained fighter anytime, but let me make it more extreme any fighter Vs. a 7' 400lb wrestler it boils down to huge vs. skilled ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 263 |
i thought tyson was 5'11 and half? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 57 |
Another interesting Gracie challenge ...Ralph Gracies (the Pitbull: because he choked out a pitbull thaT attacked him) offered Roy Jones JR 3 million $ and 1 million $ a minute to fight him...Roy turned him down. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 102 |
i agree, boxers are not fighters. they are sportsman. for that matter, most martial artists are all for show too. whenever i've been in fights, the guy would square up with me, but before he could shoot in, i'd just shoot a double leg, turn the corner, throw the legs in, and pound the shit out of him, there's nothing he can do. if you ever watch the ufc's, the wrestlers always win. and i'm including jujitsu as wrestling, because it pretty much is, besides the breaking moves. here's a challenge, put any aggressive NCAA champ wrestler up against the gracees, and teach the champ how to do a few of the breaking moves, and it would be a close fight i'd say. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 364 |
Don't even talk to me about the gracies... they are bad men but sakaraba has humbled 2 of them. "what if he caught tysons hand?" what the hell kind of boxing do you watch? I am assuming the billy is reffering to tyson in a boxing match(?). Its hard to catch someones hand with boxing gloves on. I'll bet on tyson in any boxing ring but I agree that some pride fight guys could take him though I bet he would do his damage. Tyson is a mean, hard little ball of rage. E ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 192 |
TYSON is a proffesional fighter. There is no comparison. ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 346 |
Tyson won his fight before he even got in the ring----Everyone was intimadated by him! When Douglas killed him --he lost that factor and his carrer was over---Not only did Holyfield tie him up, but he hurt him and made him look silly---Lewis would knock him out in 4 rounds---Lewis just makes it look so easy that is why people dont respect him----Tyson has not been hit much in his life and when he was hit, he was beaten! Hes a punk-just ask Chris Cormier what a punk he is. ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Cool Novice ![]() ![]() Posts: 28 |
jarabbit, bump on that, i happen to fight UFC. the guy who trains me trained under Rickson Gracie, and i will tell you that size doesn't mean shit when it comes to fighting. you could be 7'0 350, but when you are choked out after 3 seconds, your hugeness just makes you harder to pick up off the mat. hands down--tyson. kovacs is too big too slow, wouldn't even be a fight. THINK BIG!!! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 323 |
Tyson,in 2 seconds.Kovacs would do well to sell some advertising space on the soles of his boots. ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 4990 |
Tyson Is a big mofo. I talked with him several times when he was up in Indy doing time. dumb as a rock but strong ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 826 |
this post is "THE" definition of asinine ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 408 |
Tyson would beat his ass senseless in under a minute ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Cool Novice ![]() ![]() Posts: 41 |
I'd kick both of there asses. Hey Phiend email me brotha! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 844 |
Come on, Kovacs would be out of breath just climbing into the ring. Some big guys are fit but he ain't one of them. Besides how much punching could he take with all that synthol in his arms - ouch! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Cool Novice ![]() ![]() Posts: 46 |
Kovacs uses synthol????? Are you crazy he is natural. only uses Muscle Techs products. They have been working damn good for me, dont tell me my hero uses anything unnatural. ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 671 |
Trying to knockout Kovacs would be like trying to knockout a gorilla... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Cool Novice ![]() ![]() Posts: 13 |
What does this have to do with gear????? Go to the chat board....no flames, just my opinion... ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 154 |
I think most of you would agree that Tyson of 85-87 was the baddest MOFO around. He had his head together as much as he could. Can you name me one boxer who was MORE intimidating than him. The fear in his competition was awesome to watch. I would take Tyson of those years over anyone. I hate to say what if but this guy would have been the best if he didn't go nuts. It's a shame. ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 78 |
some of u guys are nuts if u think kovacs could give tyson a fight.. tyson would whip kovacs ass, its alot different when u fight to make your living, and earn your money. tyson is a street punk, been fighting since he was like 12-13 yrs old.. i doubt kovacs grew up in the ghetto or anything... tyson would knock his slow ass out before he got his arms up... ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 132 |
Tyson would take him, but what if Kovacs is mid-cycle at the time .. running 2 or more grams of test? Roid rage may change everything....hehe j/k Tyson would eat him alive (possibly literally) ... and definitely get a lot of good lean protein. Imagine a Greg Kovac steak. Yummmm. Now here's a more realistic fight... shamrock vs tyson. That would be interesting, but I think once Tyson is off his feet, it would be over. Shamrock all the way. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Cool Novice ![]() ![]() Posts: 27 |
SHAMROCK all the way!! Remember, no ear biting. =) ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1760 |
Tyson did loose those fights (i believe) after his jail thing. In fact he couldn't come back like many guys who where on the extreme top (Borg, Mac Enroe) and lost it. He might be a bad mofo ....but he lost. ------------------ Don't look back, life is too short ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 670 |
Tyson would knock that Muscletech freak flat on his face, then he's sodomize his tight ass and be done before the 10 count. *Paf* *thud* *squirt* *ding ding ding* ------------------ "how much can you really know about yourself if you've never been in a fight?" Tyler Durden ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 153 |
Just a small point, but since Ali lost some fights as well I guess he's a loser ranked below Tyson since he has a worse record? Name me a heavyweight champ who had never lost a fight....hmm? Tyson is the only man Foreman said he would respect in a ring out of all the champs since he and Ali. Coming from a man who actually KNOWS boxing, that means something. IronMike ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Cool Novice ![]() ![]() Posts: 15 |
tyson would kick his but plain and simple ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Novice ![]() Posts: 7 |
FUCK TYSON. ANY PRO HEAVY WEIGHT BOXER WOULD KILL KOVACS....I SUPPOSE THE FAT ASSES IN THE WORLD STRONGEST MAN CONTESTS WOULD BE CONTENDERS TOO HUH? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 154 |
IronMike- I believe Rocky Marciano is the only undefeated heavyweight champ. ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 154 |
I would take Tyson of '85-'87 over Ali. Tyson did lose fights, but at that point he also had lost his focus and his mind. ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 174 |
First of all, about 100% of all fights end up on the ground. The only way Tyson would win was if he hit his first shot square in the chin with an upper cut before Kovacs took him to the ground and ripped his head off.
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Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 183 |
man you guys forget tyson is a streetfighter, man he is the baddest mutha on the planet, you show me one person who says they will fight mike tyson in a no holds barred match, I would like to see it. Man tyson says you wanna fight dirty I will too, so look I dont know if one of the gracies could fight tyson, man he is bad as hell. All that grappling and shit aint nothing when you have concrete fists of mike tyson comin at you, not to mention his speed and ferocity, man I think tyson is atleast in the top 3 of baddest muthers alive. ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 153 |
Memory aint what it used to be hammercurl. Thanks for the correction... you get my point though right? hehehe And I agree that Tyson of his first say 40 fights was the best fighter I've ever seen (from watching footage only) of any era. IronMike ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Cool Novice ![]() ![]() Posts: 39 |
Kovacs would make it a tie by sharing Meso-Tech bars with Tyson ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 364 |
for the record skaraba beat royce, renzo and royler gracie as well as vitor belfort. There is your baddest mofo right there. I would still have to give tyson a chance though ![]() E [This message has been edited by E (edited February 05, 2001).] ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 191 |
I think Ken Shamrock could kick both their asses. He used to live up the road about 30min in Lockeford before going to SD. He is one bad mofo. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Cool Novice ![]() ![]() Posts: 26 |
Has anyone watched a Toughman fight??? Believe me, size means nothing when it comes to boxing, if it did, Lennox Lewis at around 240 wouldn't be one of if not the biggest heavyweight champs ever. Size matters when 2 bums fight (ie Butterbean vs. bum of the month). In terms of UFC, there's always some 350 lb. monster or Samoan who get taken off in a stretcher or loses to a skilled grappler. Also, who would you rather meet in a streetfight, someone that's gonna burst your orbital socket, add enamel to your diet, and then bite exposed appendages, or someone who is going to put you in a bear hug...? Say what you want about Tyson, with his body structure & strength, he wouldn't be easy to get a grip on and if he connects.......CHICKLETS!!!!!! Shamrock, Gracie, Aqua-man, anyone. ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 419 |
Exactly thinkbig! You fighting in pay per view stuff or just local events? You guys, not all, don't understand how it works. These guys come in at very opportune times protecting themselves quite well, they then clinch and take down the vitim and then kicking and punching is pretty much irrelevant. skaraba is the baddest of the land now and I would put Shamrock up there as well, just watched him fight and win in Ultimate Brazil, He is awesome! Bring a boxer to a Gracie academy and watch in amazement as the supposed bad man gets embarrased. Seen many black belts get whipped in under 2 minutes time and time again by guys that aren't even pros. Hell I've only been doing it for 4 months but the level that you increase at is very fast if you stick to it and go consistently. Tyson hits you , yes, it's over but if he misses then it most likely is also over. Jujitsu is the scariest of the martial arts. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Novice ![]() Posts: 6 |
Screw all this skilled this and skilled that. That sounds to me like it is coming from someone who is not as genetically gifted as I am, and well.... sorry you little shrimpy wimpy guys, I'd tear your fukin head off cause I'm bigger as well as more athletic. I've tangled with plenty of short, low center of gavity, "quick", pit bull type fellas and they just can't hang with the big daddys. And I don't care HOW "quick" you are go ahead and try to kick me in the head with your martial arts bullshizat, and I'll be holdin your foot in my hand when I rip it off. That kung fu $h!t is another excuse for little guys to try and feel tough. Just try it out sometime on superior size and strength... it aint happenin jerky! You have just been told the truth....deal with it. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 126 |
Tyson IS a BAD MOFO!!!!!!! I was just saying the other day that he's the last mofo I would mess with in this life. There is no competition. End of discussion. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 364 |
redneck, just you wait till a smaller guy humbles you... beleive me, it can happen. E ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 143 |
Redneck your a idiot for believing that a little man can't kick your butt and that shows some of us you haven't been around the bad dudes that are skilled. Your a joke. ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 419 |
Yes redneck if you are big and strong you will take me (now) and many others my size (5'11 190) but you will not take my teacher or the shamrocks or any Gracie followers with skill! They will if they want literally kill you with a submission move as you do have blood that runs to your head like the rest of us and they will cut that off and that means death within 1 minute. If your lucky they will just break your arm in 3 places. And you will not grab my teachers kick with your hands it has been clocked at 60 mph and will knock you out, even if you did it is to the ground time and you will lose there to just as quick. Yes, most martial artists are overrated with there registered feet and crap like that but some can/will and do back it up! Wake up big guy. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 542 |
oh this is so fuckin stupid. could you at least move this childish shit to the chat board? "gee, who would win, ronnie coleman or spiderman?" "my dad could beat your dad.." ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 563 |
my four cents worth tyson would win,,, training is all someone has got size, strength, brains, really dont mean shit when it comes down to some one who knows what the fuck they are doing. ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 671 |
Tyson lost TWICE to guys that were in his same weight class, let alone a fucking 400lb silverback motherfucker. He loads up on Cheque Drops, bites someone's ear because he can't outbox him and you guys start worshipping the ground he walks on. Bad Mofo This, Bad Mofo That, shut up already... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1849 |
well said bazooka ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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