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thankgodformexico

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posted February 04, 2001 11:23 PM

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My test shouldn't be too low after an 8 week deca only cycle, so I want to avoid any side effects I might get from clomid and try something natural. What should I use, Tribulus?


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Mass Monster

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posted February 04, 2001 11:29 PM

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bro just my experience but you might want to take the clomid for 2-3 weeks post cycle even if you think your nat test isn't that low it will be as it is shut off. It would just be doing yourself a favor, clomids not that bad for you.


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lawnsaver

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posted February 04, 2001 11:31 PM

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Tribistan is the only brand I would take. If you want decent results, you will need to take double the dose. I took Methoxygen after a test only cycle and it worked great for me. It has a very potent tribulus and other keys ingrediants. I have to say if I take any otc suppls again, besides glutamine and whey protein, Methoxygen will be the only thing I take again.
www.netrition.com www.dpsnutrition.com

The bottom line is that ther is no substitute for clomid

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panerai

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posted February 05, 2001 12:12 AM

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What amazes me,that people are willing to take steroids,and then when it's so important to make sure that they will keep the gains and to restore natural testosteron production,they start to worry about side effects,and want to try something natural.
Are you really that stupid? If so,just stay natural all the way,you won't have to worry about side effects.


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BillyBadAss

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posted February 05, 2001 12:14 AM

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dude, clomid is cool. i would take it eod during my cycle and ed for a month after.
try tribulus, a shit load of andro, and a lot of methoxyflavone


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2Thick

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posted February 05, 2001 12:41 AM

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There is no legal alternative to Clomid. Clomid is synthetic estrogen...Tribulus tries to raise test levels through other avenues. If it did raise test significantly, then it would be banned along with andro...LOL.

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ItalianSweetness

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posted February 05, 2001 01:11 AM

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Do what i did. Use tribulus AND clomid. I took about 2,000- 3,000mgs of tribulus a day with 2 clomids a day after my cycle and nat. test was back in FULL SWING EXTREMELY FAST. All of my strength was kept and i even put on some more strength from adding more carbs post cycle. I ALSO ADDED METHOXYGEN AND ZMA TO THE MIX TO KEEP THOSE GAINS GOING. WORKED LIKE A CHARM FOR ME

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panerai

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posted February 05, 2001 01:30 AM

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ZMA - zink and magnesium ! LMAO!!!!!! With a right marketing you can sell anything,haha...very sad!!!!


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thankgodformexico

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posted February 05, 2001 02:34 AM

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Guess I'll just use the clomid then. I was just trying to avoid the acne that some people have reported because I'm really prone to it. I was reading that "what gives you the worst acne" thread and a few people listed clomid over test and a bombs, so I was thinkin fuck that, but if there is no decent alternative then I'll just have to go down to mex to pick some up because I don't have a rx. Anyone know the brand name down there, or is it just generic, thanks lates


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Boulder Bis

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posted February 05, 2001 02:40 AM

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Panerai, your right. WTF is it with ZMA.You can get that shit in a multi vitamin mineral cap. Jeez. I never wasted my money on that marketing bullshit.

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ItalianSweetness

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posted February 05, 2001 02:50 AM

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panerai: can u give evidence that zma doesn't work. There have been tests on this that i will admit i don't have access to. Yes zma exists in a multi- but it should be taken later on to help levels rise while sleeping and also help with sleep itself. And zinc is spelled like this--> zinc. NOT ZINK..LMAO!!

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ASTRAL FITNESS

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posted February 05, 2001 08:00 AM

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magnesium, zinc and b6 taken at bed time boosts recovery yes its true zma is a waste cause you pay 3x what you should.


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panerai

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posted February 05, 2001 09:15 AM

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IS,don't take it personally...


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CAEDES

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posted February 05, 2001 10:17 AM

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Why would you NOT take clomid? I'm assuming you don't care about keeping your gains? Take the clomid for 3ks along with some Tribestan. If you're willing to inject yourself with roids, then why are you worried about a little acne? Amazing.

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thankgodformexico

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posted February 05, 2001 06:35 PM

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Originally posted by CAEDES:
Why would you NOT take clomid? I'm assuming you don't care about keeping your gains? Take the clomid for 3ks along with some Tribestan. If you're willing to inject yourself with roids, then why are you worried about a little acne? Amazing.

CAEDES


Dude you must be right. I must not want to keep any of my gains, and I like to waste gear. I'm not just worried about a little acne. I just copied this from the "2 weeks on clomid and I'm a sniveling bitch" or wutever thread in case you mist it:

I'm two weeks in to CLOMID at 100mg/ED. I can't stand the way I have become and I'm driving my GF of 1 year crazy. The most stupid things are setting me off all of a sudden. Things about her past boyfriends all of a suddden bother me..up until 2 weeks ago I never gave a shit. And now I'm complaining that she doesn't give me enough attention....or she doesn't "touch" me enough. I sound like a jerk I'm sure...anbody else experience this????

Clomid can cause temporary mental illness in some people. I'm not joking, about 10-15% of the people can't use it.

MeanOne -- I think you're onto something -- I'm in week 5 at 50 eod with my cycle and I'm a fucking nutcase. I'm actually stopping to question whether I'm hormonally fucked up or if things are actually the way I'm percieving them.


This along with the fact that some people get worse acne from clomid than test abombs or dbol (which in my case is a shitload of acne) is what is making me hesitant to go on clomid at the end of a deca only cycle in which I have no acne to begin with. I was simply checking to see if there was a natural alternative. It's not like I just came off a super cycle, and it's not really that "amazing". peace


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