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 I would like some info on doing low dosages of a variety of compounds together.....
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Elite Bodybuilder 
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What would be the effectiveness and the results for a beginer (like me) of doing low dosages of a cycle of say like EQ , winny, primo, test prop. Say 200 mgs of eq a week, 50 mgs of winny eod, 100 mgs primo a week, and 300 mgs of test prop a weekand 3-4 dbol tabs a day. Would the effect of this cycle( more compounds with lower dosages), be better than taking say 600 mgs of eq with with test prop at 400-500mgs a week (less compound and higher dosages)?I know this has been asked before. ------------------ [This message has been edited by ItalianSweetness (edited February 04, 2001).] [This message has been edited by ItalianSweetness (edited February 04, 2001).]     | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 651 |
also--I don't know much about the receptors but wouldn't hitting various compounds cover almost every type of receptor( A/R and non A/R receptor sites)? ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 651 |
bump...please...i would like to here from anybody who could put their 2 cents in. ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 411 |
bump good questions! | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 430 |
Well bro, this isn't your first cycle is It i think i have seen others you have posted. Well I wouldn't do thata low of doses I mean you might gain a little but if you want to run gear for moderate gains I would atleast up the primo to 400mg and the d-bol 5 day for 4 weeks and then eq to 300-400mg and the winny looks fine. I will bump this perhaps some one else has done something like this. Mass Monster | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 96 |
4-500 of prop? jesus, i hope you don't have the 50mg/ml, from what i hear its a painful shot, i'm inquiring about it myself..i hope its not like primo or liquid d-bol, thats a pain no man should feel..like molten steel being shot directly in your ass. As far as your question..Eq..hmm you gotta shoot atleast 300mg over a period, i'd make it 10 weeks, it will be 5 or so before it starts to kick, but you can't beat it for looking hard, your primo is weak, 100mg won't do anything for you in my opinion, bump it to atleast 300, 3-4 tabs of d-bol would be good, i'm not a big fan of high dose orals due to water retention. I think its a good idea..just bump up your dosages a little in the primo and eq..winny, i couldn't tell you..i don't have any experience with it. Hope this helps bro..i'm rambling here tonight..tired as shit | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 430 |
Bump!
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 651 |
I understand that low dosages don't yield WORTHY RESULTS. But i am interested if low dosages of SEVERAL STEROIDS will collectively have a more positive effect on the body than doing one compound or 2 compounds at relatively high dosages? Thats the best i can put it. Anyone??  ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 96 |
I dont think it would..300mg of eq. and 2-300 mg of primo, 4-5 d-bol is pretty low bro..god that rhymed..anyway..i was just saying bump up the levels to an acceptable minimum and yes its a good idea, i believe you would keep more. Keep in mind they all work different ways | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 256 |
not a bad idea, however i would have a staple anabolic like deca that i kept at 400-600mg's /wk | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 49 |
I hate to break the news to you ...but this is not a low dose cycle! You are talking about 1040mgs of gear a week! Pretty far from low dose ...don't you think? | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 430 |
Deep its definitly low! I mean 2,000 isn't even that much but at least your doing the research! Mass Monster | ||
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Moderator 
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quote: Thank you for an intelligent response! There should be a rule that you cannot comment on anyone's cycle unless you have done one yourself...LOL... ------------------ Great Information on Injections and Syringes | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 370 |
Number one, you don't want test prop. on a first cycle. You don't want painful frequent injections until you've learned to like it. You would be much better off with some Enth or Cyp Also, every steroid that you named competes for the exact same receptor site (not that that is a bad thing). -Stew [This message has been edited by Stew Meat (edited February 05, 2001).] | ||
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Moderator
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Apparently you are confusing this board with your local gym where no-neck idiots try to inject as much juice as possible into their body and then strut around like they just discovered a cure for cancer. Using more (when less will work) is ignorant. I don't know you and I do not know how many cycles you have done or how long you have been cycling but your advice is dangerous (or at least wasteful) for 90% of the members on the board. ------------------ Great Information on Injections and Syringes | ||
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Moderator
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quote: Please tell me that you just didn't say that. You know that there is only one type of androgen receptor and that all steroids fit in virtually the same exact way. ------------------ Great Information on Injections and Syringes | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 651 |
I understand that the cycle i have gave an example with, is pretty low too maybe u guys but not to me. I am a beginer to the game and over 1,000 mgs. of gear in my system is a good amount! The recently did a cycle of decca/winny as you know and it worked terrifically.All i did was a total of 700mgs. at the most per week with most of the cycle being in the 300 mgs per week range. So for me , yes 1,000 would be a lot of gear. This will only be my third cycle and i don't look to put on massive amounts of bulk in my cycles. I look to cut while adding quality mass. I figured that if i gradually increase the amount of gear i do in each anual cycle that i will keep on making those SOLID GAINS WHILE STAYING CUT. So , is there anybody who has an opinion that holds true in this matter? ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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quote: 2 thick, i have always wanted to say that. Why would people want to damage their bodies to make it look worse.------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 374 |
I say go for it. Alot of these guys are way off base (on the board in general). Every cycle post the response is up this or that. I was told the cycle I just got done with would be useless. They said "what the hell are you trying to do, you can't cut and bulk at the same time!" Well, that's exactly what I did. All together that is actually quite a bit of stuff. If it's your first cycle I'm sure you'll see results. Maybe not 40 lbs in 6 weeks, but it will probably be good quality muscle. Let us know what you decide. I'd like to see how it goes for you. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 90 |
Hey Sweetness, I think you might should try what you suggested at first. I'm interested in knowing your results. I have seen your pics and you do have favorable genetics like me. I am on my third cycle at 29 years of age after about 13-14 years of natural lifting. 1000mgs/wk is a lot of juice for me too. I'm only doing 700mg/wk myself. Depend more on hard work and genetics and less on the AS unlike alot of these juice monkeys that do the opposite. You might ask 2Thick to comment more. I believe you would get an intelligent response. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 651 |
your right boulder. 2thick----can u elaborate on your feelings of the whole low dosage Various compounds VS. high dosage minimal compounds cycles?? You can really help me out by giving me some info. You have seen my pics and u know my goals in the cycles to come (cut with quality muscle gained). Thanx . I would appreciate it. ------------------ | ||
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Moderator
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The compounds you are considering are good for lean body mass since they do not hold much water. Along with high protein and a well balanced and properly scheduled diet, you can gain muscle mass and stay lean (except for the water retention from the d-bol, but it will subside once you discontinue the compound). You will have good AR mediated and non-AR mediated effect from the compounds you have chosen. I do not see why you would not make great gains (but diet will be essential and will determine what type of gains you will make). I would stop the dianabol after week 4 in order to reduce toxicity to the liver. ------------------ Great Information on Injections and Syringes | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
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quote: There are not different androgen receptors for different compounds. They all bind to the exact same site.
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 651 |
thankyou 2thick. ------------------ | ||
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Freak 
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No offence Italian, I havent seen your body but "IMO" that original cycle you posted is not going to be as beneficial as say 600mgs of eq and 400mgs of test and 20mgs of dbol/day. Flame away. ------------------ |
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posted February 04, 2001 08:45 PM