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Amateur Bodybuilder 
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I got my friend some omnadren, and he's been on it for 3 weeks now (tomorrow is his fourth in injection). We've noticed absolutely nothing in terms of gains in strength, size, or weight. Is this normal? For past omna and sust users, how long did it take before you noticed differances, and what were they. For instance, how many pounds/week, and how much stronger/week did you gain on say the bench press. This is all for comparative purposes. I'm worried that our omna may be fake, not sure yet though.     | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 1184 |
Takes me four to six weeks. First I notice strength and bloat. Then the scale starts moving and by the very end I am able to see a big difference in my physique. Give it another week or two. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 101 |
just looking for a few more opinions on the matter | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 109 |
i take it you are shooting it once a week? as i have said many times before, sust and omna MUST be shot at least EOD and ED for best results. if you look at the different esters in those drugs, they are designed so that the test releases into the system over a month time period. so if you shoot once a week, for every amp, you waiste 30 mg of test prop and 60 mg of phenyl prop. these have a half life of 2 days, 3 max. so if you shoot on monday, by thursday, you have no test in the system at all, as the other esters will not become active untill next week. get it? do not waste your money on sust ot omna, unless you are going to do it EOD or ED. save the money and buy enenthate or cyp and take the guess work out of the equation. arrrggjh this is my pet peeve. sustanon is a hormone replacement drug and is meant to be administered once a month for males over 50 or once experiencing libido problems. if you have any questions, e mail me and i'll convince you that ED is the only way to do sust. sorry to get all worked up, but this topic gets to me | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 101 |
What you say sounds interesting. What I'm wondering is why more people aren't doing that. One problem though. If you're only interested in taking 250 mgs of omna or sust a week, how would you work eod out? You'd be left with some left over in the amp. This is my friend's first cycle, and I don't think he needs to be taking 750-1000mgs of sust/week as the eod philosophy would yield. Any suggestions? Thanks bro | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 357 |
Yea bro it takes about 5 weeks before the gains its always good to give the sus a nice little jump start with some d-bol or something. Mass Monster | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 392 |
I've always shot my Sust. and Omna all at once(500 mgs. weekly),and the results were nothing less than dramatic ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 964 |
At 250mg/week it may take 5-6 weeks to really kick in. ------------------ | ||
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Novice 
Posts: 7 |
If shooting sust/omna eod was such a better idea, everybody would be doing it. You will see the same gains either way. Have done over 15 cycles and I've tried it both ways, Don't spread info that you cannot support. I for one have been there done that!!!! ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 109 |
thats the thing, unless you are going to use it at high doses (1000-1750mg a week) dont do it. do cyp or any other single ester. for my first cycle i did sust at 750/week all at once and primo at 200. i gained around 17 lbs. for my second cycle a year later i did omna at 1000 EOD with eq at 300 and gained 36 lbs. now you cant tell me that it was the eq that put on all the extra weight. in august i am doing Sustanon at 250 ED for 5 weeks with dbol and deca. this should be the big one i am looking for. there are a lot of people that have tried this theory and loved it. if you have gotten good results from sust once a week, i dare you to try it my way. if you do not get the best results you have ever got off sust. i will pay for your cycle! ok the last part i was joking about, but try and you will thank me | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 39 |
What Dissto is saying is that if you are going to use only 250 mgs per week use something other than sust. like enanth. or cyp. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 109 |
JACKASS, oh i mean NATAS: the reason people dont do it EOD or ED is cuz they are used to doing test like test and that is once a week. and i CAN support this theory. why the hell is there prop in the mix? dont tell me that prop can be shot once a week. it cannot therefore you have to shoot it EOD. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 101 |
What you are saying makes sense. Any opinions from the mods and gurus here? | ||
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Novice
Posts: 7 |
Misunderstood what you were saying. My bad Bro!!!!!!!!! ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 109 |
NATAS: kool kool, didnt mean to snap. | ||
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Novice
Posts: 7 |
Damn, had to reread your post and feel like a dumbass!! All this test makes me very touchy. (1400mgs) ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1184 |
The prop is in the sust so that the drug will take effect quicker and have a more steady release in patients whom use this hormone for theraputic reasons. You make it sound as if sust is manufactured specificly for physical enhancement. Patients receive one shot per month. The four esters provide a steady release of testosterone into the blood. First the prop ester is removed from the testosterone. Then goes the phenylpropianate, then the isocaproate, and finally the decoanate ester is cleaved off. This is to provide a steady release for those who do not use this drug for extreme physical enhancement. There is no need to shoot sust ed or even eod. Twice weekly injections will elevate blood levels of testosterone significantly so that it will induce a great level of anabolic activity in the body. One shot a week will even maintain a steady and even supply of test as that is the purpose of sust. A dose of 250 in my opinion is too low but one shot a week at 500mg will release even levels of test. You will not be wasting prop because when it runs its course the next ester in line(phenylpropionate) will release to maintain blood levels of test. | ||
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Freak 
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Dissto it is a good theory but in life very inpractical and not only will you be injecting the prop every other day but also all 3 other esters which dont need this due to their longer half life. If you are really interested about the prop in there which is worthless in my opinion (would have been much better to use cyp/enanthate), well as I was saying if you really want the prop then buy a sepearte vial/amps of prop and inject the sust once or twice a week but inject the prop in the other vial at 50mgs eod or however much you are wanting. Personally it is a waste injecting sust everyday due to the sole reason that you need to inject 250mgs every injection when you really only needed to inject the prop. Peace ------------------ |
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posted February 04, 2001 03:35 PM
