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LUVS2JUICE

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From:WOODMERE
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posted February 03, 2001 09:37 AM

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Ok I just wanted to say that you are all right and i am Stupid, Pathetic, and have no common sense and no matter what i do i will get no where. all i do is work so hard in and outside the gym and get no where!!! I want abs so bad more then anything and be able to be tight but i dont want to loose any muscle I allready have. I been dieting very good last 2 months and this is what resulted. I went from 16 to 10% bodyfat. I went from 34Inch to 32 waist. now this is what is so depressing!! I lost 1/2 inch in my arms 13 1/2!!!!! I lost 2 inches in my chest which is now a 42incher. What can I do?!!! UP my fat and carbs and do more cardio??? i am so lost!! I cant juice untill i get on the right track naturally first. Oh well, cant do anything right so just flame me you guys are right...i dont deserve to juice..it should be a privalige.


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The_Iron_Game

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posted February 03, 2001 09:43 AM

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13 & 1/2 inch arms and you are using steroids?

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LUVS2JUICE

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posted February 03, 2001 09:45 AM

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No i am not using steroids, i am working out naturally for last 6 months. Its terrible man i was 15inches when i did sust last year. I want to be tight, vascular, and 6 pack though...there has to be a way i could do that without loosing muscle is there???


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The_Iron_Game

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posted February 03, 2001 09:47 AM

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So go to the natural board!


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Cornellius

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posted February 03, 2001 09:48 AM

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Bro, no need to say that. You have got a lot of smiles to this board .
Have you tryed a zero carbs diet with carb loading on the weekends??? It�helps to mantain muscle mass. Try it with some AS and you�ll be ok.
Remember than when you lose BF, your arms will lose fat also and they will be smaller. You�re not necesairly (spell?) looseing muscle.

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LUVS2JUICE

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posted February 03, 2001 09:57 AM

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my arms were never big to begin with so maybe i should just deal with it...maybe i will throw in 1 peanut butter sandwich on whole weat a day and see if that makes any more changes


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Stan O'Zolol

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posted February 03, 2001 10:16 AM

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Hey bro, maintaining muslce mass while dieting is a difficult thing to do, especially for a natural. Get your bodyfat down and you will end up looking bigger. Then, when the time comes, concentrate on building muscle. Trying to do both at the same time is very difficult unless you are very new to training.


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Rico

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posted February 03, 2001 10:21 AM

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Make sure and take an ECA stack 2xdaily while you are on your diet...this while keep your body from burning muscle for energy. I like Xenadrine or Hydroxycut. Go through 1 bottle (about 4 weeks) and keep your workouts intense and you will definitely see a big difference in your abs.

RICO


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Goin_Big

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posted February 03, 2001 10:27 AM

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It sounds like you're just having a rough time, send me an e-mail with what you're eating and how you train, I'm willing to help you out.
[email protected]

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LUVS2JUICE

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posted February 03, 2001 10:50 AM

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I am training 4 days on 1 day off:

day 1: Chest/tris
Day 2: back/bis
Day 3: legs
Day 4: shoulders
Day 5: rest

Cyle repeats-------

Then for dieting i am consuming 320grams of protien, 196 grams of carbs and 70 grams of fat. should i up my fat and carbs but only have complex and unsaturated and load up in the morning and shutdown in afternoon? Maybe that will help??


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hammercurl

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posted February 03, 2001 10:52 AM

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We all reach a time when we think we aren't getting any gains or start to lose.
Don't get down on yourself.
Keep your chin up bro and STAY POSITIVE.

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LUVS2JUICE

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posted February 03, 2001 10:54 AM

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thanks hammercurl i'll do the best i can but remember i only have 13 1/2 inch arms now!!!! I think HGH would do the trick!! what do you think?


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hammercurl

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posted February 03, 2001 11:37 AM

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HGH is not my thing. There are alot of bros on here who can help you with it.
What is your height and weight?

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zula

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posted February 03, 2001 11:41 AM

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No... Nobody on this board is going to say its ok for you to use GH, so quit asking. You say your on a diet, so if you want to you can bring your carbs even lower, like 50-100 grams a day. It might not work for you but it sure as hell worked for me.


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LUVS2JUICE

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posted February 03, 2001 12:04 PM

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I am only 186lbs at 5"9,


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panerai

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posted February 03, 2001 12:05 PM

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Hey,bro,My grandma has 13"arms, you better start doing some serious roids,ASAP!


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Jay Z

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posted February 03, 2001 12:43 PM

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you weight 186 and only have 13 inch arms...i think you must be fat


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Gettin' Bigger

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posted February 03, 2001 12:53 PM

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Hey LUVS, how big were your guns when you sent those pics to hit on Deepsquats wife?????


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ultragainz

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posted February 03, 2001 01:01 PM

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bro 13.5........ my cuz is 155 and his arms are 14.5 bro you not fat right?damn....put some pics up.later bro

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THE BOUNCER

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posted February 03, 2001 01:12 PM

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BRO, ANYBODY CAN GET BIGGER BUT YOU HAVE TO KNOW YOUR LIMITS. IT DOES NOT SOUND LIKE YOU ARE BLESSED WITH GOOD GENETICS. SORRY TO RUIN YOUR DAY.


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Conan001

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posted February 03, 2001 01:19 PM

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if you wnat to get big and you train hard even if you didnt have genetics youll get there. i started lifting when i was 15, i had 10 1/2 inch arms(not joking) now 4 years later, i have 17 1/2 inch arms cold,,,hehehe

hard work=1
genetics=0


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strengthmonster

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posted February 03, 2001 01:30 PM

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Don't be so hard on yourself bro. OK you may have bad genetics but at least you've got the determination. Out of all the people on this board it is fairly safe to say you've had more insults than most but you are still here and you are still trying hard. Not everybody puts on massive size straight away. OK some do (lucky b*st*rds). It has taken me 12 years of hard training to get to where I am and I am nowhere near finished yet. People will laugh, people will tell you you can't make it. They did it to me - the golden rule is this: Don't let the b*st*rds grind you down.
Don't loose heart, keep your determination and you will succeed in the end. Even if it takes you longer than most, you will have a greater sence of accomplishment when you get there.


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Conan001

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posted February 03, 2001 01:32 PM

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good job strengh monster.


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Goin_Big

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posted February 03, 2001 01:35 PM

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https://www.elitefitness.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/000087.html
Check that post out, I gained 20 pounds while on it, i'm sure you can gain, just follow it exactly and lay off the cardio for now man, if you wanna be strong you're gonna have to stop worrying about getting cut.
Creatine will help you gain alot of weight, i'd recommend cell tech as I've seen what alpha lipoic acid can do, and mixed with creatine it's got some great effects.

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littlearnold1069

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posted February 03, 2001 02:06 PM

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well said strengthmonster

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megamassnitro

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posted February 03, 2001 02:28 PM

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Cornelius is right. You're loss in dimensions is from body fat reduction, not muscle mass. Certainly not strength.


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The_Iron_Game

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posted February 03, 2001 02:31 PM

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Bro, no offence but you asked to be flamed.

As I said you got 13.5 inch arms and yet a 42 inch chest? I am sorry but you must look freaky.


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whodaman

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posted February 03, 2001 02:44 PM

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bro...don't talk shit about yourself....like cornellius said you bring alot of smiles to this board. If you want to grow, start your cycle...that cycle you had posted looked good. You are learning, and I would rather see you post fucked up shit then fuck up a cycle. Keep it up bro, I can see that you genuinely do want to learn, you're doing the right thing by asking alot of question...you'll get big it just takes time. Good luck brother!!


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surehands2

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posted February 03, 2001 02:56 PM

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bros i think he measures his arm when its hanging down like no flexed thats why it sounds so small he needs to flex it right?


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MUSTANG_18

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posted February 03, 2001 03:47 PM

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LUVS DON'T BE SO HARD ON YOUR SELF! I LOST ALOT OF MUSCLE WHILE CUTING A LITTLE WHILE AGO. I WAS REALLY FAT IN MY EARLY TEENS AND SO I DID ALOT OF WEIGHT LIFTING AND TRAINED VERY HARD SINCE I WAS ABOUT 14 YEARS OLD AND PUT ON SOME NICE MUSCLE BUT ABOUT 2 YEARS AGO I REALLY WANTED TO SEE MY ABS SO I STARTED DOING ALOT OF CARDIO AND MADE MY DIET VERY CLEAN AND UP UNTIL ABOUT 3 MONTHS AGO I WAS DOING CARDIO 6X A WEEK FOR 45MIN AT LEAST AND I LOST SOME OF THE MUSCLE I WORKED SO HARD FOR. I GOT TO SEE MY ABS BUT I HATED HOW SMALL I FELT SO I STARTED TO EAT ALOT OF CLEAN CALS AND AT LEAST 2 GRAMS OF PROTEIN PER POUND OF BODY WEIGHT, AND STARTED TO CUT DOWN ON ALL THE CARDIO TO ONLY 3X A WEEK AND I HAVE GOT SOME OF THE MUSCLE BACK AND NOW I AM ON WEEK 3 OF MY FIRST CYCLE. I JUST THOUGHT I WOULD SHARE MY EXPIRIENCE WITH YOU. I WILL NOT DO THAT MUCH CARDIO AGAIN UNLESS I AM ON SOME AS TO HELP PRESERVE MUSCLE. I'LL SHUT UP NOW THOUGH AND GOOD LUCK ON THE CYCLE THAT YOU PLANNED, IT WILL HELP YOU SEE THOSE ABS AND ADD ON A LITTLE EXTRA MUSCLE WHILE CUTING UP. GOOD LUCK

M18

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LUVS2JUICE

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posted February 03, 2001 08:33 PM

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thanks a lot for all your support guys, especially you strengthmaster or was it monster, hehe...This is the best responses i ever gotton Feels good to know that there is actually some kind hearted caring guys on this board......... I will allways train hard!!! even if that means 10inch arms!! never ever will give up!!! thanks....i will let you guys know when i start my cycle


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JuanDeLaCruz

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posted February 03, 2001 09:08 PM

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Relax! Stop getting so down on yourself there is no need for it.
If you want to lose weight so bad why don't you just do some CLENBUTEROL! Then take a month off and do a gram of test for 8 weeks to get jacked and make those 13inch arms 17inch gunz!

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Deppnade

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posted February 03, 2001 09:10 PM

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no doubt son, keep it up

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flexed1

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posted February 04, 2001 02:31 AM

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First off flush your tape measure. I can't recall the alst time I measured anything. Go by the mirror. Now you've lost 6% bodyfat in two months did you think you would stay the same size? You will look twice as big as your bodyfat goes lower as your body leans out and looses fat. Look at my contest pictures I was 139 on stage though nobody guessed my weight and most though I was 20 pounds heavier. Fuck the tape measure , fuck the scale, go by how you look,.


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