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SaleenPimp

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posted February 02, 2001 10:21 AM

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I am mainly considered about safety here. Can someone give thier advice? I want as many opinions as I can get. Thanks!


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The Ghost

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posted February 02, 2001 10:22 AM

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Foreign sources = cheap, but risky.
Domestic sources = expensive, but much safer.

That pretty much sums it up entirely.

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BUFFTECH

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posted February 02, 2001 10:33 AM

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couldnt say better myself

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Dexter

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posted February 02, 2001 10:49 AM

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Ghost, while I agree in general with you, I would like to add these remarks, because (even though it appears regularly) it is a good question.

Foreign sources: Generally a larger selection of medicine. Cheaper. You can wait from two weeks to two months to receive you stuff. Your stuff can get "lost" somewhere in the murky international postal process. And you can get a customs seizure notice. There is even a probability (slight) of being busted.

Domestic sources: More expensive. In general, a smaller selection. Source shoulders most of the risk, though. You can receive in just a few days. You can pray that your source keeps his records encrypted and that he doesn't talk, in case he is taken down and sweating under the bright lights of interrogation...with or without a good lawyer.

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Hacker

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posted February 02, 2001 10:54 AM

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It is now my opinion that they both suck. Considering I've been scammed twice in 6 months both by legit sources. (1 foreign, 1 domestic)

If you live near the Mex border, just go down yourself. Thats what I'll be doing for now on.


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Dexter

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posted February 02, 2001 11:13 AM

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Hacker, please email me bro.

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d801d

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posted February 02, 2001 12:58 PM

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here is a link to what overseas ordering will get you: http://photos.yahoo.com/d801d

look in my photo album

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ulter

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posted February 02, 2001 01:10 PM

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I agree with Hacker. If you live where he does the best source is a short drive south. Foreign is very cheap, not just a little cheaper but a lot cheaper. But you only get 75% of your packages.
Domestic (this is where Dexter and I part ways) has a bigger selection, you get it 99% of the time, but you pay 3 or 4 times as much.

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Dexter

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posted February 02, 2001 01:28 PM

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Ulter, it is not a parting of ways, just a difference of opinion, that's all.

From my vantage point, domestics tend to offer less of a selection of medicine. But if they do, and they are legit, God bless them.

Frankly, if I were living in the U.S., I would pay the extra money and go domestic.

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smr91481

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posted February 02, 2001 01:32 PM

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i don't know who you guys domestic source is but the one i use has stuff that is just about as cheap as i was getting from foreign suppliers.


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anabolic24/7

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posted February 02, 2001 01:35 PM

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That does suck, d801d

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ROAD DOG

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posted February 02, 2001 01:40 PM

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Is it true what Dexter was saying about the risk of a domestic source? If your source gets busted and they can see he has sold to you in the past they can bust you also?Or do they need to catch you with posession?This has got me a little worried.


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ulter

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posted February 02, 2001 01:41 PM

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smr91481 I don't know your guy, but unless your getting deca for $3/2mlvial and sust for $5/amp or winny for $6/amp, and I seriouly doubt you are, your source is not in the same ballpark of a foreign source.

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smr91481

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posted February 02, 2001 01:45 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by ulter:
smr91481 I don't know your guy, but unless your getting deca for $3/2mlvial and sust for $5/amp or winny for $6/amp, and I seriouly doubt you are, your source is not in the same ballpark of a foreign source.


guess not then, i wasn't talking about actually buying it in mexico. i'm talking about a person in mexico that i ordered from.


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punisher

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posted February 02, 2001 01:59 PM

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Your are taking a chance either way you go.IMO,I prefer to order from foreign.It may take longer sometimes,but as long as you are not ordering very large orders,you should be ok.If you have a good foreign source they can usually package it where it gets through customs.


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Crash

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posted February 02, 2001 02:05 PM

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Foreign. A lot cheaper than domestic. Remind me to slap you when I see you Monday. lol

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animal B

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posted February 02, 2001 02:36 PM

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forign..cheaper..may be longer, but no more than 4 weeks..bigger selection...absoulty safe if you follow the rules...if siezed a good forgien source will resent...
domestic..way more money..not neceassarly fsater..remember the domestic source is getting it from forign sources any way..
some are hot countries like thailand..dont ever order direct from thailand..50% you will not get it...europe, some places in south america..may be 5% get siezed
the rules..
never use your real name
never sign forign..domestic is fine
dont open box for three days and right return to sender on box and put by door..in the case, the big brother comes a knocking..
inspect boxes to see if they were opened and re taped closed..be smart and your safe


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Jay Z

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posted February 02, 2001 03:12 PM

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d801d, you got one of those too? wow...anyway i had one too about a year ago. foreign sources are risky...what i saved on a order i had to pay it back ten times in court fees...and plus a record. it's not worth it.


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Frackal

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posted February 02, 2001 03:30 PM

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To the guy who recieved the arrest warrant, how big was the order in question?


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bigluke

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posted February 02, 2001 03:42 PM

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Domestic, for sure. Like it has been said, domestic shoulders most of risk!!!


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d801d

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posted February 02, 2001 04:19 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by animal B:
forign..cheaper..may be longer, but no more than 4 weeks..bigger selection...absoulty safe if you follow the rules...if siezed a good forgien source will resent...
domestic..way more money..not neceassarly fsater..remember the domestic source is getting it from forign sources any way..
some are hot countries like thailand..dont ever order direct from thailand..50% you will not get it...europe, some places in south america..may be 5% get siezed
the rules..
never use your real name
never sign forign..domestic is fine
dont open box for three days and right return to sender on box and put by door..in the case, the big brother comes a knocking..
inspect boxes to see if they were opened and re taped closed..be smart and your safe


i can't stress enough how important those steps are!!!!i'm not saying don't do international, just make sure you follow the rules!
i had a $500 dollar order...


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SaleenPimp

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posted February 02, 2001 06:22 PM

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Thanks guys, this helps alot. I think they should change the rules. So what if you can't buy it in the United States? If you want to order some, it should be legal to have it shipped in, to your home address and all. That would keep just ANYONE and EVERYONE from doing them, and keep the people that were going to get in trouble with them anyway and hurt themselves away from it too. Steroids are used for self-improvement, and if used properly with anti-estrogens and fertility drugs, they are almost 100% safe. Of course some people have adverse reactions to all drugs, but this is not really a factor for the majority. I mean c'mon, if you're going to juice, you're going to juice. Never have I heard of anyone taking gear and using it for a "buzz" or getting a DUI off being juiced up. It's just simply not used for that at all! I mean all they do is make you better, not worse like weed, coke, or whatever. I mean SHIT they are safer than cigarettes man! BOTTOM LINE.......you should not be punished for using gear. I mean SHIT, it's legal to send syringes and needles and you can buy them at MANY places and NO ONE asks questions.......I just don't get it man! 95% of all supplements are a scam, it's just not fair fellaz. I mean how many other drugs make you feel and look better, plus gain lean muscle mass. Not everyone is born with genetics of a Pro BB.....and it's not fair that some must live a life of depression because of their body that they can't ever seem to change in a positive way..... AHHHHHHH!!! I'm FRUSTRATED!!!!


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BigJay81

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posted February 02, 2001 06:29 PM

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Some forign places you have to sign for!!!

What about those?


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Frackal

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posted February 02, 2001 06:33 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by d801d:

i can't stress enough how important those steps are!!!!i'm not saying don't do international, just make sure you follow the rules!
i had a $500 dollar order...

Do customs agents/dea whatever usually come after people for orders of this fairly small size? That was probably just one cycle for you right?


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littlearnold1069

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posted February 02, 2001 06:40 PM

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hell i live in Mississippi almost in Alabama and me and my bro drove (all 14 hours) to mexico a couple of weeks ago...damn that was a long drive

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basskiller

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posted February 02, 2001 07:40 PM

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BigJay,
I'm guessing here, but couldn't you either sign for it with any name(but write the name so that no one could understand it anyway)
What I mean..I was in a real goofy mood when UPS came a knocking(with a legal package), and I signed it Elmer J Fudd! To look at it you couldn't tell what the hell I just wrote!

Can anyone add further to bigjay's question?


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Delinquent

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Let say you're in touch with the source via email. He wouldn't require a signiture if he was legit but you get asked for a signature when the package arrives. Either the source is rotten or you've been tagged. If the source was rotten wouldn't your email be enough to get you on. If he is rotten wouldn't he have the capabilities to track your email and figure out who you were anyway?


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posted February 02, 2001 11:09 PM

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Saleen, Here is the best idea. Look for a source that ships all prodcuts from within the US and has the cash sent or wired overseas. This way PO boxes arent staked out and WU isnt looking for the source who is getting alot of funds sent his way (ie alot of transfers to a particular area.
If you find a source like that stick with it. Also avoid high profile domestics that post openly and show no descretion at all (many of you know what board Im talking about)

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animal B

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sometimes you have to sign for things..it is not the senders fault..it may have tried to get delivered and you werent there..maybe its to big for your mail box..many reasons why..I usually would send other people to get it for me..never had a problem...please think..use your head and instints..you have as much chance of getting a warrent as attacked by a shark..in 2 years Ive recieved 6 seizure letters..here you go..I had halos and anadrols come in from thailand..it was opened ..stamped opened by US customs and I still got it..explain that...5 months ago


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IronBoy

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posted February 03, 2001 04:42 PM

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DOMESTIC; LIL EXPENSIVE.ot twice Foreign prices,but can take weeks,months or forget about your money if Source gets bust or cant keep up with orders & demand.there are some who deliver only large orders fast but not for newer clients.

FOREIGN;I prefer due to CHEAPER prices,much quicker service(mine takes avg 7 dys),larger better quality selection(not veterinary),excellent packaging 99%OK,but still the same risk of being snagged but never happened,& they are never at risk of being busted where its legal to possess roids.

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quote:
Originally posted by Delinquent:
Let say you're in touch with the source via email. He wouldn't require a signiture if he was legit but you get asked for a signature when the package arrives. Either the source is rotten or you've been tagged. If the source was rotten wouldn't your email be enough to get you on. If he is rotten wouldn't he have the capabilities to track your email and figure out who you were anyway?


I'm sorry but you are wrong...

I signed for a package the other day that my guy told me was coming.

I am not tagged, nor is my source rotten...

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