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 WTF IS WRONG WITH THIS $H!T !!!
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 187 |
I'm in my 2nd damn cycle, i don't see shit here, im F**KIN PISSED !! i'm taking 1000mg cyp, 10 dbol a day, 500mg EQ, this coming monday is week 4 !! First cycle I stacked 500mg omnadren for 7 weeks and didn't shit $H!T !! WTF IS WRONG? I'm eating like a horse, I sleep more than anyone on this board, at least 8-9 hours a night, and I AM ALWAYS BALLS TO THE WALLS! Can it be that I just might need to take pro-doses? I started at 500mg, then 1000mg, whats next? This is going for 9 weeks, and I'm serious, i just don't see shit going on here, on strength? forget it, maybe a few more reps in, but god damn this is almost week 4, is this normal? Someone please help me.     | ||
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Freak 
Posts: 1830 |
how big were you before you started steroids? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 187 |
considering i am about 5:6 or so, I was about 150, with some bodyfat. people tell me ive gotten bigger but believe me, i believe its more the food i ate than the drugs itself, i eat like crazy, for the past 8 months, i've been bulking, and this is nothing but bullshit goddamnit, i feel like blowing my fuckin brains out already, i already have other issues. | ||
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Freak
Posts: 1830 |
Ok how big are you now, how much protein/day what is your BMR, did you grow easy before using steroids? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 187 |
before i started, i didnt eat enough, i thought i could gain mass and lose fat, so i didnt eat enough to grow, so when i hit a cycle and got on the boards, i found out about eating like a horse, then i just gained. i am about 185-190 right now but i have gotten fatter as well. this is total bullshit, i dont care about the weight, i want muscle + strength godammit | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 187 |
i dont know how much protein exactly but it is well over 200, maybe 300. sometimes i have 3 tuna cans in a sitting so it fluctuates. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 187 |
anyway, so WTF man, if i dont gain a lot of strength + size, im hitting a serious cycle, and i thought THIS was pretty serious. if i am under the assumption that i can't gain, i will try taking 4-6 a-50, 3g test per week, with 1g eq, we'll see where that takes me. if i can't grow on that, than my dreams are over. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 535 |
are you sure that your juice is real? ------------------ Mmmmmmmmmmmm...winny.... | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 187 |
well, i got it from a reputable source, our BR source, my last cycle, was also real gear, (i still dont know), can it be i might just need super-high dosages? godamn man, im totally pissed and sad. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 150 |
OK Shawn I faced the same problem as you and I believe it is a receptor thing. How long did you wait between your Omnadren cycle until you started your cyp cycle? If you did not wait very long then your receptors are probably shut down from all the testosterone in your system. You need to shock your receptors by introducing a new steroid like deca which will displace the testosterone and give you some more growth. I now personally believe that every bulking cycle should be followed by a cutting cycle for two main reasons. a) To help loose some of the fat you gained during your bulking cycle and, b) To introduce some new steroids to shock your system (receptors)into signaling more growth/strength. Hope this helps. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 187 |
man, i dont know what to do. i stopped my first cycle at the end of sept. and was off til jan. 15, is that long enough? i didnt use clomid, because i didnt feel like i needed to, i gained 20 pounds from the end of my bulk to the beginning of this. i just ate and ate, some of course is fat, but not all of it. im fuckin pissed, i thought this was going to be a big cycle, and was ready and excited..now i just wanna kill everyone im fuckin pissed! [This message has been edited by Shawn (edited February 02, 2001).] | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 187 |
by the way, im cutting after this with suspension and winstrol, we'll see how much i have to use of each. | ||
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Freak
Posts: 1830 |
Beats me. Some people dont react positively to aas. Very few people but perhaps you are one of them. If you havent gone up at all since you started your cycle almost 4 wks ago and you are on 1000mgs of test, 50mgs/day of dbol and 500mgs of eq then perhaps you need a consultation with a medical advisor. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 187 |
im taking arimidex too but still, i should see the gains coming from 2 weeks ago! btw, i need a consultation with the fuckin devil. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 150 |
First off take it easy, I know how frustrating it can get, but it is not end of the world. Two cycles isn't going to turn you into a Flex or Dorian, remember a lot of these pro's have been on gear for years before they even competed. Also I read that with time your body can actually increase the amount of androgen receptor sites. This is why the pro's look the way they do it's not because they started out using mega doses, but because they gradually have built up the amount of steroids they take over years. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 187 |
i wasn't expecting that. i am just expecting some very good gains from this cycle, especially strength, and look at this  | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 187 |
bump. can someone help me?? what is wrong with me, or my receptors? do i even have an AR? goddammit man. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 187 |
bump | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 201 |
Cut back on the arimidex and see what happens. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 72 |
Dude, find someone else that gets their gear from the same source, then see if they have made gains. It's somewhere to start. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 187 |
i am dropping thr arimidex, some other guy told me the same, but about my source, he is very legit, everyone orders from him, we had a little problem here when one person accused him a scammer, but he is definately not. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 849 |
4 weeks on 50mg/day of Dbol and you weigh 190 and you aint seeing shit? You got fake shit bro, period. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 187 |
well i finished 3 weeks, week 4 starts monday, and this is total bullshit, man. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1009 |
I'm with Superdave..is there anyone you know at the gym who could check your shit out, or scan it and post some pics here..it's just not adding up. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 187 |
no one at my gym. i just don't know what to do, i did a first cycle and ALSO thought it was fake, cussed out my source, and threatened to kill him, but it just doesn't add up for me either man. i dont think its fake, maybe i just need to take triple dosages i just did? | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 799 |
quote: Are you sure you are not overtraining? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 187 |
i dont think i am.. my workout is this: chest/tris i usually do about 3-4 exercises per part and 3 sets of each exercise, i dont think i am overtraining. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 849 |
What kind of Dbol did you say you got? It could be a faked version. Doesnt look like your overtraining, fuck, could be that you dont respond to aas, but assuming you got real test and deca, maybe just ride the cycle out and see how those drugs hit you. You may as well, you spent the money and youre already on them. As far as consulting a doctor about the problem, what are you supposed to say " Uh, doc, illegal steroids arent working on me, could you give me something else?" I dont think so. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 187 |
can it be i dont respond to AAS? whats gonna happen now, man? GODAMMIT, should i double up my dosages or something? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 187 |
the dbol is called bionabol. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 799 |
You're not doing too many sets but 4 days on and one off might be too much for putting mass on. I think you need more rest days. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 357 |
Shawn maybe you could post us an updated pic or one before the cycle. And then one after your cycle is done then maybe we can see the progress. Mass Monster | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 201 |
If you made gains on your first cycle then you do respond to AAS. Give it a bit more time. And again, drop the arimidex unless you feel gyno coming on. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 775 |
Possibly your source was "scammed" and unknowingly passed it down to you. But if it turns out to be real, then I honestly don't know what to say. If you can't see growth on those dosages, you won't grow on any dose. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 187 |
well bros im really hot right now, and getting to feel tired for the last 2-3 days. so is this a side effect that its working? i hope so. | ||
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Freak
Posts: 1684 |
I also agree that you might be overtraining. This might not work for you.. but I have found that I grow best off of no more then 3-4 days of heavy lifting.. I grow good off of 3 days/week. Hit it very hard though on the days you do lift. When i was lifting 5-6 days a week I was seeing little gains.. But with that said, you should still be growing if u are taking that much gear... even if u are slightly overtraining, u should still see something. | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 26 |
I think your stuff is fake. I've been taking roids for over 5 years. I can feel my roids are working within the first 24-48 hours. There are lot of good scammers out there, Be careful. Take care. MustangRacer27 | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1080 |
Overtraining Lack of proper digestive properties(enzymes) to digest the protein To be honest 150 to 190 does not sound too shabby, perhaps you are expecting too much Finally, I did buy a boatload of shit from a "reputable" source one time and the shit was BOGUS. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 187 |
yup, i think its fake, well this is my 2nd cycle on fake shit. ive made more gains with food alone, swear to god. as a matter of fact, I HOPE ITS FUCKIN FAKE, that way i dont have to worry about my body not responding well to AAS because I DO want it to respond to it. Anyway, I don't know what to do now, might have to find a doctor to get me some real american test because 1000mg cyp should be overkill and i should be a monster on this cycle. Figures. Jersey bro, no overtraining trust me. and email me about our "reputable" source. thanks. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 82 |
Here's the problem. It's you. You take ridiculous doses this early in the game, and are expecting to be superman. No doubt your shit is fake. I'm not suprised you bought fake shit as you don't sound intelligent enough to inspect your gear for signs of a counterfeit, and go overboard on your doses in the first place. You want everything today, but don't have the patience required for this sport. I hate to sound like I'm flaming you. Just think about it though. If you got real shit and you aren't growing then what is upping the dose gonna do for you besides draining your wallet and health. You're already taking a stack that a more advanced bodybuilder would be on, and this is just you're second cycle. Save some room for later, Augustus Gloop. ha ha. Bet nobody gets that one. Damn, I'm weird. Disregard my advice man, sounds like you're on the right track. No seriously, you need to re-evaluate yourself and check your gear. Hope things work out for you. If you are getting real gear and it's not working for you then GIVE IT UP! It's not for you. You will undoubtedly burn out quick as will your health and finances. Hope you make some good decisions and grow like a madman. Best of luck. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 171 |
For your second cycle you are taking too much man. Way too much in my opinion. Also, I have no doubt that all of your shit if fake. If you dont even weigh two hundred pounds and you are taking as much as you are taking, then it is fake. I weigh 285 lbs, and on a dbol/winstrol 5 week cycle I gained 15 lbs of lean muscle and I only took 3-4 tabs a day. No question your crap is fake. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 187 |
uh, i hate to reply to this, but im not a small person. i might not weigh 300 pounds because my fuckin HEIGHT won't allow me to. I'm about 5:6 or so so weighing 190 is pretty decent. The reason i am taking such high dosages (u think so) is because my first god damn fuckin cycle was 500mg test and it didnt do shit for me, so WTF are u gonna do? keep it at 500mg again? and yes i do want to be superman, and I WILL BE | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 187 |
btw, thats not a flame, im fuckin pissed, you guys are making me pissed, stop!! my second cycle of fake shit!!, stop it! please! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 187 |
i think my equipoise is real though, i noticed a slight strength increase, but its not like the shit u hear about dbol, water retention, strength through the roof, etc. im noticing a bit more veins and slight strength increase, so i guess it must be the equipoise, but the big deal is the cyp/dbol, man i just wish it was real. i think i may have access to some american test vials from Steris, is this real? my friend gets it from his doc, used 400mg, and really does blow up with strength and size. god help me. | ||
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Novice 
Posts: 4 |
I agree with some of the other guys...your shit is FAKE!!! If your source is neither a doc or vet, Then he probably got the stuff from someone else and didn't know it was bunk. Correct me if I'm wrong but a doc or vet will get their stuff from the company/supplier. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 187 |
so should i try my friend's doc? my friend also got burned on EQ the first time, then switched to his doc, and gets hooked up with some upjohn/steris cyp and eth. why is everyone saying upjohn and steris is all pure fake? if he is making gains on that, it must be real. p.s. its expensive like $150 for a 200mg/10ml vial of cyp. but i would rather buy that than touch anything else. what do u think? | ||
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Novice
Posts: 4 |
you might want to see what else fis doc might have to offer...if you find something you like, go for it..but stay away from your current source...remember, knowledge is power and the more you research even with a source the better off you are!!! ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 187 |
i know, but about steris/upjohn, come on, there is real shit out there right? i mean, all this time, i could have probably NEVER touched REAL TEST! I wish i can just use 400-600mg test cyp/prop per week and grow and get strong as fuck from that. instead of injecting 1000mg of this fake ass cyp god dammit. 1000mg, it must be fake. i did 500 first cycle, i guess that must have been fake, too. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 503 |
how old are you??? ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 187 |
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 187 |
fuck this, forget this fuckin bullshit, i've had it with my life, im gonna blow my fuckin brains out, man, i always wanted to commit suicide before anyways. wish me luck to heaven. i have had nothing but bullshit in my life. so long fellows. godspeed. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 93 |
Damn Shawn...don't you think you going alittle too far with this? Calm down bro and think rationally. It sounds to me like you might need to speak to someone-- off the gear topic and get some help. Not a flame bro. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1009 |
Bro..most people on this board (myself included) have gotten bogus gear that rendered our cycles useless at one point..just calm down man, things will fall into place if you let them, email me, I can atleast steer you in the right direction for real gear..you're not a small man either..190lbs at 5'6" is quite large, I constantly hear that weightlifter's peak at age 30, that means you have 4 years of drastic growth ahead of you. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 22 |
shawn, you seriously need to chill. FUCKING BREATHE! look, personally i agree that you must have got screwed. my very first cycle was d and deca, and i gained 17 pounds. you need to find another source or find someone else who uses the same source and compare.but hell, maybe your diet or something else is fucked up, but with what you're taking you should have some sort of results. either way, you need to relax and get your head right before you do anything else. the gear is a tool, not a magic potion so be patient and don't expect too much. i feel for ya and good luck! | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 21 |
HEY SHAWN. You are never going to amount to shit with that kind of atitude. Be a fucking man and stop whining!!!! Boo hoo I am going to blow my head off cause I can't grow. You get no sympathy from me. As for your juice it is fake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THERE IS NO GUESSING ABOUT JUICE EITHEIR ITS REAL AND YOU GROW LIKE A MoFo or its fake and you don't. Hey look at it this way, you have put on about 40 pounds naturaly thats a pretty great achievement. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 679 |
Something your taking is effecting your emotional state. Test. makes me an emotional wave sometimes. Ive seen results come in 2 weeks and sometimes not till the 5th week. Changing up one thing or everything the way you do it has started new growth for me. Re evaluate your entire program. All the legit gear in this world cant help a program that doesnt work for YOU. Meantime, solve the legitamacy factor first- post some pics of what you got and if possible find someone to test it for you. This shit is eating you up. Goodluck-MZ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 391 |
You may be overtraining.12 years ago,my overzealousness caused me to hit a wall and I went nowhere.That was on 600 mgs. of real Steris Cypionate. I was training too much.A pro football player who worked out at my gym,asked me "What Are You Doing"?After I explained my routine too him,he laughed and said,You do twice as many sets as me,and I'm twice your size. I'll say,I couldn't get past the 200 lb. body weight,He weighed 315.He took me under his wing,and the rest is history.All we basically did was focus on Squats,Benches,and deadlifts. We trained every other day.I thought that was not enough.Low and behold,My size and strength increased dramatically,over a 4 month period. I now weigh around 250 or so at 5'10" with abs.I was just one of those guys,that can't train Hard AND Long,without it being detrimental.Even when I'm on cycle. You can't believe any of that crap you read in magazines about training routines.It's all made up.I don't know anyone that trains long AND hard,who hasn't hit a wall.You can't do both at the same time. ------------------ |
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posted February 02, 2001 06:03 AM
