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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 78 |
Anadrol. It seems only the truely hardcore dare touch this stuff. It's extremely androgenic and aromatizes easily, yet yields MAJOR mass. For all you hardcore users out there, were the gains worth the risks of the sides? What dosages did you use? Just curious. ------------------    | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 466 |
What doses you use depend a lot upon your genetics. I have gone up to 10 tabs a day. However, this would be realistically insane for some others. Try 1-2tabs a day, if you don't notice many sides, trying another....you really have to figure out your own needs and requirements. As I have said before, anadrol is my favorate drug, but just because it works well for me, dosen't mean it will work well for others.  | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 220 |
Hey MeanOne, Anadrol had better work well with you at 10 tabs a day!LOL BTW how many days/weeks did you take that much drol for? DreamingBig | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 24 |
I've gone up to taking 5tabs a day for 3 weeks the last time I used it. Not too many sides just a little bit of gyno. Just take it slow the first time you try A50, take one a day for the first week and two a day for the second.... try not to stay on it for too long 3-4wks only to be safe. They say it's not good to take more than three a day.Use your own judgement!! Everyone is different. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 466 |
I did about 500mgs/day for about 5 1/2 weeks. Worked well, as I have said before, I one of the freak shows in humanity that dosen't suffer ill side effects from anadrol. I had a bit of water retention - no gyno, acne, hot flashes or other steriod related problems. Liver enzymes came back only slightly evelated on the beginning of week 5, so I didn't do any real damage either. However, this is NOT to be copied by anyone else, particularly the new guys out there!!!! This is not safe, as everyone reacts to gear a little different, I would hate to see one of you in the hospital for trying the things I've done in the past. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 740 |
GOOD ADVICE MEANONE! M18 | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 78 |
That's the thing about Anadrol from what I've seen. It's definately a bang for your buck. Strange how 2 tabs a day can make you huge. How was the quality of weight gain though? That's what I wanted to know. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 738 |
what's the quality? i lost all of my gains, i dont know about any of you. i used 150mgs for my first cycle ( dumb ) i sisnt stack, do to lack of education, so do alittle research and you'll be glad you did. next time i use a-bombs, i'll know what to do | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 78 |
You know what to do? What would that be? I mean what would you prefer to stack it with to keep from shrinking back to Clark Kent? lol ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 78 |
Mainly, the only thing I'm worried about is gyno, hair loss, and water retention. I've been looking for something to add to the first 3 or 4 weeks of my Sust cycle to gain some extra mass before the Sustanon kicks in completely. Dbol or Anadrol are what I'm lookin at. I want to keep my fat levels reasonable. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 78 |
Sorry, I've been doing a lot of window shopping lately. lol I just want to know the MINIMUM amount to take for 3 weeks to see results and stay away from side effects. ------------------ | ||
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Freak 
Posts: 1815 |
LOL @ U. You have gone from one extreme to another. There is a big difference in doing andriol and deciding against it because of its weakness and now you are looking at going in to anadrol. Stay away from that, you are new and you can gain off drugs that are a lot milder. I have also noticed you have been looking at all orals. Any reason for this?
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Freak
Posts: 1911 |
six weeks on Anadrol = Massive Gains six weeks off Anadrol = Loss Of All Gains
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 78 |
Actually, I've never used any oral steriods. I've always injected, and used only one injectable steriod at a time at that. I was about to order my Sustanon and Proviron cycle, and was just looking for something to take orally for the first 3 or 4 weeks of it so I have gains from the get go. I would like to gain about 8 pounds during this time before the Sustanon kicks in completely around week 5. The reason I have been looking into Andriol(won't use now), Dbol, and Anadrol is so I can use one of them to fill those first 3 or 4 weeks. I want an oral steriod during this time since I will be injecting 2 Sust shots a week as it is. I don't want any more injectables in my cycle. I don't want to be a pin cushion. That's why I want an oral. I can't get oral Primo from my source. I'll either use Dbol or Anadrol during the first 3 or 4 weeks. Either one I use, I will use the minumum dosage suggested for each. I am concerned about side effects. That's why I am throwing in the Proviron during the cycle and a week of Proviron post cycle as well as 2 weeks of Clomid. If I use Dbol, I was going to use about 30mg per day for 3 or 4 weeks. If I decide to just say screw it, I'll add Anadrol at about 2 tabs a day for 3 weeks into the cycle. If I can use Anadrol at a minimum dosage without side effects, I'm all for it. I'm not sure which I will use. I want to be able to keep my gains. That's why I doubt I'll use Anadrol since most people lose all of them when the stop. I'll probably go with Dbol. I'm just asking for people's opinions and experiences who combined them with Sustanon. Any help would really be great. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 78 |
Thanks for everyone's concern and willingness to help. You guys are like the big brothers I never had. lol ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 47 |
i am a jackass newbie and I take A-50 I havn't gained much weight as i havn't been lifting, but I have done lots of biking, running, swimming and I can do them all for a lot longer at a faster pace and I am able to recover VERY quickly which enables me to go out and hit another hard core run the next day. not sure if these results will go away but I definatly have more endurance two more weeks in the cycle so i will report if I get all emotional or whatever i hope i keep some of this endurance though cp
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 466 |
Your kidding....right....I hope....yikes | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 47 |
point being...???? cp | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 78 |
You guys got a little off topic there. Those last 3 posts didn't help much. ;P ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 738 |
quote: point being...???? point being...???? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 78 |
Let's don't get all violent now guys. I'm just here for information, not to hear trash talking. I can get 20 Anadrol 50mg tablets by Genepharm for 70 bucks, so that would be about 3 weeks worth which is all I had planned on taking since the Sustanon would start kicking around week 4. If I take 2 tablets per day for 3 weeks, how much would I gain from just Anadrol? I'm just trying to take into account how much I will gain at the end with the Anadrol and 500mg of Sustanon per week after my 8 week cycle ends. I will be taking some Proviron throughout the cycle and a little after the cycle as well as clomid like I said. I might just go Dbol. I'm not sure. I can get 100 5mg tablets of Dbol for 60 bucks. Not really sure what I'll do. I just want to know about the Anadrol gains if I take 2 tablets a day for 3 weeks. Any help would be really appreciated... ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 78 |
sorry. I had to just ramble in this message so I could see my post flame. lol ------------------ | ||
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Novice 
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Hey Campus phreak e-mail me bro, I am a national level swimmer thinking of using A50 with some other stuff. Were you cut up when you started, and did you stay ripped? I have 6% BF ,195 Lbs. 6'5 (typical swimmer) Looking to get to 210 and stay cut up. I lift 3 times a week, will lift 4 times on off season. Train 2-4 hours daily in pool, I am a sprinter. Can some people give me some advice!! Thanks! Dont say just stick to primo and winny, I know A50 with something like primo or EQ would be a pretty good stack for me. I begin tapering soon for NCAA. Want to start after that. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 78 |
Iron Game, do you happen to have any articles on Anadrol? I'd like to see one more on the scientific level like some of the others you usually post. The side effects are pretty similar with Dbol and Anadrol. I know that Dbol aromatizes easily to estrogen and also converts easily into DHT. Both 2 things everyone should be worried about. Bitch tits and hair loss. How readily does Anadrol convert to DHT in the minimum dosage? If you have any articles, I'd really like to see them. ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 47 |
well they actually are working for me, and like I said I really like the fact that I recover so quickly...after 21 days i am stacking with test cyp
Your right, I probably am fucked up...but I don't drink, and have always treated my body good so i figured i deserved a little "God juice"...which happen to come in the tablet form this time i like my damn a bombs...but i am taking all forms of advice... sorry to ramble. cp | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 289 |
To everybody on this thread, do NOT, I repeat NOT follow MeanOne's advice regarding Anadrol. He does not know what the F%$K he is talking about!!! At 500mg a day(for 5.5 weeks no less) of oxymetholone(Anadrol) even if your liver values didn't sky-rocket upwards, you would die of a heart attack due to a blood clot(e.g. embolism). The rationale behind this is the following: These are the FACTS: 1) Anadrol was synthesized to be used in Sickle-cell Anemia patients. 2)It is designed to increase the production of red blood cells by the bone marrow. 3) Such an increase in red blood cell concentration increases blood hematocrit levels(the solid part of the blood in respect to the liquid part) dangerously high in patients with normal red blood cell values. It also increases arterial blood pressure due to the increase in mass flowing through the veins. 4) If too much Anadrol is used by a person for an extended period of time, the hematocrit level of our blood will rise to a certain level. At this certain level, the blood will begin to coagulate inside the erteries and veins, and then solidifying. This will cause blood flow blockage, and a heart attack would soon follow. I DARE, and I do mean DARE MeanOne to refute anything I've said. I hate liars. Especially when they try to give false advice. Godspeed P.S. Thanks Slopain for showing me this thread | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1208 |
there is nothing harsh about anadrol. the dosages are what are stupid. treat 1 anadrol tablet with the same respect you would treat 10 dbol tablets and you will be just fine. | ||
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Moderator 
Posts: 6457 |
With anadrol start with 1/2 a tab for the 1st week then 1 tab for the 2nd week and then back down to 1/2 tab for the last week. You should not take anadrol for more than 3 weeks if you like your liver. ------------------ Great Information on Injections and Syringes | ||
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Moderator
Posts: 1833 |
bump for Fonz | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1312 |
bump for MeanOne! ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 289 |
BUMP, because I really, really want to flame this guy back to hell. I also lay 5:1 odds he doesn't show Godspeed | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 58 |
FONZ I agree with you one hundred percent. Hey d1734 shut the fuck up dude. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 291 |
d1734 didn't say anything wrong, as a matter of fact he's saying what Fonz is.Read it well before you go smart'n off. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 539 |
I read one bomb was worth 50 dbol in toxicity. Gimma some of dat. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 47 |
feels like a damn good vitamin to me...I ain't sweatin a little 21 day cycle cp ps...can i still function without my liver? | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 384 |
well, whomever told you that 1 anadrol equals 50 dbol in toxicity is way off, he doesnt know what the hell he is talking about. I know someone who took 10 anadrol a day for 3 and a half weeks, i dont agree with it, but he did. the most i go up to is 150mgs. no sides ever. it really depends on you. | ||
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Freak
Posts: 1900 |
quote: sheep | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 289 |
Bump for MeanOne Godspeed | ||
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Novice
Posts: 4 |
What about the dosages given to AIDS patients.From what I understand they would be considered excessive to most bb's.WARRIOR | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 466 |
Fonz, you are correct in some forms and your line of reasoning is sound, however, I think you are a loud mouth little child with too much test in his system right now. I like how you want to flame me, because that is what I have learned that iggnorant people do because they lack the ability to reason. Thank you for making yourself look like an ass before I ever posted again. Here are my questions for you, please answer them fully, and in graphic detail with studies that can be found in the Economics Medical Reference Library, or just sit down. -At what piont in time does the blood hematocrit level get to become a problem in inhibuting blood flow? I desire an exact figure, but has you can not produce one due to the variables of humanity, you can see where you are quickly shot down. -To say a certain dosage of a drug will cause X amount of pressure to build in the vascular system, you would need to state that all subjects must have the same beginning blood viscosity, and makeup. Is this what you are saying? If not..well -To say a x dosage of a drug will cause Z level of effects, whether in water gain, strength, LBM, or red blood cell accumulation, is not only very bold, but would be very hard to prove, I would love to see and read your study. -To say that because the blood hematocrit By generalizing all of man, you had already proven your iggnorance. Please proivde the detailed answer to each question, and the study with it's listing number. If you ramble off ideas with no clinical information that we all can find to back it up, you will be disregarded. If you post fake listing numbers, I will expose you. If you attempt to undermine me again, at least do it correctly, son. Remember, your talking to someone who works in the medical Bio Chemistry field. ---Awaiting my trip to "Hell." (Mod's did I handle that peacefully and gracefully enough???) | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 466 |
Bump for loud mouth with no certified data. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 466 |
Biizzzz-ump (I guess he couldn't read where I told everyone else not to do what I did, and that I would hate to see them in the hospital...what a peon) | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 466 |
Hey moron, go to the medical ecnomics PDR and look up Syntex. In there you will find that they suggest 1-5mgs per kg of bodyweight. 10 tabs....very easy. In the mean time bump for you, you uneducated peon. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 512 |
I found here some information that can be used in defence of MeanOne(like he needs defence,haha....  )It's taken from the site: http://www.medibolics.com/german2.htm -------------------------------------------- German Steroid Study Success by Michael Mooney (from Issue No. 3, May 1996) A new study shows that one of the most powerful oral anabolic steroids improves lean muscle mass with no significant side-effects in HIV-positive men and women. (1) Oxymetholone, formerly sold in the US as Anadrol-50, was given for thirty weeks at a 150 mg/daily dose. Weight gain averaged 14.5% of bodyweight, which is significant because there was no exercise program instituted, but it is known that anabolic steroids exert their greatest effect when weightlifting is employed. Notably, even the subset of patients burdened with AIDS-related infections continued to gain weight on oxymetholone. While oxymetholone is considered to be a harsh steroid with a high potential for side-effects, the subjects were reported to have no significant problems with liver function, water retention, virilization, and several side-effects thought to be associated with its use, at a dose that is three times what many bodybuilders would use, for considerably longer than they would generally use it. The study didn�t look at CD8+ T cell counts, which appear to be more correlative with survival than CD4+ T cells,(2) which were not correlative with weight gain in this study. 1. Oxymetholone promotes weight gain in patients with advanced human immunodeficienty virus (HIV-1) infection. Hengge, et al. Brit J Nutri (1996) 75:129-138] 2. CD8+ lymphocyte counts and the risk of death in advanced HIV infection. Schlumpberger JM, et al. J Family Practice (1994) 38(1):33-38.
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 466 |
See, now that what I want to see from Fonz...I can actually find those studies and read them in their entirety...Thank Pan. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 66 |
quote: well? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 157 |
I know a couple HUGE guys that take upwards of 10-12 tabs a day of a-50. I have done 4 a day with 12 dbol and 1500mgs test/eq/deca also. I didnt go over 4 weeks on the abombs, kept the d's to 8 weeks. I agree its dangerous, I was also being monitored bi-weekly. Liver did get elevated,but not very much. I gained a LOT of size! I lost about 12 pounds after 4 weeks off, all water it seemed, as strength stayed! I dont see myself ever going over 2 tabs a day ever again, even though I didnt experiance gyno, acne, BP probs, etc. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 161 |
Man, I ain't responding well to 50mg dbol, what would happen if i took 3 anadrols a day for 4 weeks, does the dosage depend on the person? its like i have no receptors, i am in my second cycle, 1g cyp, 500mg eq, 50mg dbol, not noticing anything, will anadrol be different? i feel like i can take 100 dbol to just get anything. so i was wondering if the 10-12 anadrols a day had to do with your genetics (i.e. not responding well to low dosages?) | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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Hey meanone,i was at 5 drols until yesterday, first week 2tabs/day second week 3tabs/day third week 4tabs/day and 4-5week 5tabs/day and today i trap down,last two weeks i had a verry high bloodpresure and heavy headacke and my stumac has been shit for most of my cycle,it feels like my brain is 100 degree�� AND YOU SAY YOU DONT HAVE ANY SIDES,THAT IS "BULLSHIT".I HAVE DONE MANNY CYCLES WHIT ANADROL AND FEEL THE SAME EVERY TIME,AND MY TABS ARE CLOSE TO 50MG/TAB,BUT I DONT THINK YOUR TABS IS,NOBODY CAN MAKE 10 DROLS/DAY. IF A NEWBE TAKE THIS DOZ ,,HE GONA DIE HE�S BLOOD GONA BE PURPLE,DON POST THESE CYCLE HERE,USE YOUR BRAIN,ONE MORE THING UNDER MY CYCLE I HAVE VISIT MY DOC TWO TIMES TO SEE EVERYTHING IS OK,AND I GOT MY LATEST RESULTS TWO DAYS AGO AND ALL LOOKS FINE AND I GAIN 13 KG FROM MY CYCLE AND HALF OF IT WILL BE WATER MY FACE IS VERRY PUFFY "FOOTBALL" BUT LITTLE DYAZIDE AND I�M FINE AGAIN. MICKE | ||
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Novice
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The following URL contains some information about what u've asked for ... personally I don't recommend the high dosage of steroi . http://www.angelfire.com/zine/bodybuildingfiles/descriptions.html | ||
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Guru
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Holy SHIT!!! 10 a day. I start with 1/4 tab and work up to 1 1/2 and I get crazy strong with water everywhere. I wished I could take 10, but i would get nose bleeds just looking at the bottle. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 289 |
MeanOne, for starters I don't take test. I'm currently on DECA+EQ, apart from orals. In your previous article you just shot yourself down in a very bad way. 1) All the articles that you've probably read are concerning AIDS patients and Trauma patients. I know this because I've read alot, and I do mean a LOT of the literature concerning anabolic steroids due to the fact that my masters thesis is going to be on "The uses of anabolic steroids regarding human spaceflight". You've treaded on the wrong person this time MeanOne. Here are the facts AGAIN: 1) Trauma patients and AIDS patients were the groups used for the study concerning oxymetholone. This is the ONLY reason why Anadrol was brought into the market. AIDS patients and Trauma patients are in an extremely catabolic state. MOST IMPORTANTLY OF ALL THEY SUFFER FROM NEGATIVE NITROGEN RETENTION COMBINED WITH LOW HEMATOCRIT LEVELS, LOW BLOOD PRESSURE AND REDUCED RED BLOOD CELL MANUFACTURE. 2) Here is where vthe study gains interest: I never said your liver would fall out at a dosage of 1-5mg/Kg. It won't. But it will hurt due to enzyme elevation caused by Anadrol's 17-aa's activity. However, what I did stipulate was that you would suffer from extremely high BP and increased blood hematocrit levels which are inherently dangerous. 2) AIDS patients and Trauma patients have very, very low hematocrit levels, around 35-45%(30% or less being terminal). Anadrol was given to increase blood cell production and consequently boost hematocrit evels to a normal 50-55%. 3) Know, imagine an average Bodybuilder, that is given the same amount of Anadrol as the Trauma and AIDS patients, his hematocrit levels(normally around 55) would rise to 70%. If that person were extremely lucky, he/she would just get nosebleeds once in a while due to the increase in arterial BP. But, this is the best case scenario. Any hematocrit level above 70, in addition to A HEAVY leg workout equals, localized internal hemorrhage + trip to the hospital. Panerai showed a good study were a group was given 150mgs/day for 30 weeks. This would have only elevated hematocrit to a about 60-62, which is high but not inherently dangerous. His liver values would have gone up. To MeanOne, please show me a study performed on humans in VIVO, that correlates with your statement. E.g. That they took 500mg/day(extrapolate your bodyweight and change it to theirs in mg/Kg), and lived to tell the tale. Godspeed [This message has been edited by Fonz (edited February 03, 2001).] | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 289 |
This for MeanOne again: To answer your questions: 1) If you really do work in a Bio related field, you should know what happens when hematocrit levels push past seventy. I'll give you a clue: Your body detects a decrease in blood viscosity(e.g. increased blood density or more red blood cells flowing through your arteries than normal). This is similar to what happens when you cut yourself. Blood platelets begin to group together at the "cut" site and begin to seal the breach so to speak, by joining together and solidifying. Now, if we take into account that the increase in hematocrit is generalized NOT localized as in a cut, the resulting implication is that the blood will begin to coagulate inside the arteries and veins. The body doesn't know that the hematocrit level is being artificially stimulated, it just "reacts" to seal the "cut" so to speak. And hence, the platelet aggregation becomes an arterial blockage, which without a platelet inhibitor(aspirin), could cause a heart attack. Godspeed | ||
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Cool Novice
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Hey 2Thick,how do you take the A-bombs in halves? Just curious the best way to divide them, so you're not breaking them up too much and losing a lot of the dosage, thanks bro..."Quote the Raven"....Or any moderator feel free to answer. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 466 |
So basicly all you did was repeat what you originally posted, yet provided no reference material for your "Facts." Pretty much what I thought. I'm still walking around, Syntex, the manufacturer of Anadrol for how many years recommend 1-5mgs per kg of bodyweight (100kg's=500mgs of anadrol, how dare they?), so I truely hope you are just going to leave it alone. All you've done is go on and on about platelets, but it's funny that you never addressed the issue of the body breaking them down. Does it? No, of course not, that's why we never produce anymore, the level we are born with is the level we have throughout life. LOL, you and your ideas are rediculous, so please, go be a fly in someone else's little world...I'll be over here, being big, if you need me. Basicly what it comes down to is anything you said, y ou can't prove with an outside source, meanind your a lot of hot air, which is not suprising. First Conan is going to die, then I'm full of shit, what's next, 2Thick is full of shit about his injection sites? LOL, it seems that's the direction you like to head. No No No, maybe it's that Conan is all of the peeps found on his webpage and he is a big scammer? That's about as logical as what you've been posting. Leave it alone, your beaten here and in Conan's thread... --==MeanOne==-- (By the way, 2Thick is good for injection information and Conan is not some scammer, just a stand up guy - didn't want to mislead anyone.) | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 289 |
Well, I gave you a chance to cut your losses gracefuly but you refused. So, her goes: 1) Please post your studies concerning Syntex please. I would love to see them. I know which ones they are, and am just wondering why you're talking "out of your arse" so-to-speak. Godspeed | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 466 |
I already told you to go to the Medical Economics PDR and look up the company Syntex and it's products. There you will find the dosage information. Have a nice day...and do yourself a favor, don't ask me to come up with the studies, I'm not the one running his mouth about all these "Facts" which are insane in their very definitions. You've made yourself look like as ass under this thread and Conan's, recant and leave, your shut down. (I don't think any of us should be taking advice from a guy that's 1.5 weeks into his first real cycle.) | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 289 |
Why is it that I get the feeling that you are avoiding showing me the studies. Is it because you know you are wrong, and are trying to save face? Hmmmmmm..... Godspeed P.S. You're talking yourself into a corner | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 289 |
I'm still waiting oh MeanOne........... Godspeed | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 289 |
MeanOne, you lose. Godspeed | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 78 |
I'm sure glad you guys turned my post into an all out smackathon. I just wanted a little more information on Anadrol. I don't check the post for a day, and I find that almost all of the posts were nothing but smack talking. We really need to try more to help each other than start shit. I don't want to see this board go back into the flaming it used to be full of. ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 466 |
Don't worry, I decided that Fonz wasn't worth replying to any more because of his iggnorance, and lack of factual content - and went to the gym. (Not that I shouldn't be dead or anything being that I use over 1 gram of test/wk, a bunch of anadrol, and what else would you say is so lethal?) Have I avoided showing you studies, no, but you have dodged every single one of my questions about your "Facts" or "Theories: which might better be described as ramblings. You've been shot down in two posts now, how about if you go over to Anabolics.com and run your mouth there. That board is full of loud mouthed hot headed little children. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 289 |
MeanOne, you can say whatever you want, do whatever you want, but the fact remains: WHERE ARE YOUR STUDIES? You don't know because, YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, DO YOU? I HOPE THAT GOT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULL!! LoL Godspeed | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 466 |
Okay son, let me take you to school now. Dr. Ruth J Simmons, "Administration of androgenic aids to burn victoms." 1987, MELN: 3245-a4 "The subject were all given 300mgs of Oxymetholone for a time period of 15 days previous to date of inncodent. Recovery was approximately 43% quicker, with little side effects, or liver toxicity." Dr. David M. Mclaster, "Administration of 17alpha alkylated oral steroids and observed toxicity" 1998, MELN: 4892-y1 "While the average test study has show that the majority of the subjects could tolerate 72mgs of various 17aa compounds without elevated liver enzymes, it was also interesting to note that some subject did not occur elevated enzyme counts untill over 400mgs a day was administered. This would suggest a large gap inbetween any two subjects and their abilities to tolerate these compounds safely." Dr. Samuel J. Matterson, "Observed effects of Oxymetholone administration." 1994, MELN: 1279-p0 "At 50 mgs a day, a large scale increase of red blood cell count was found, as well as an increase in free floating fat acids, antibodies, and various amino acids." "At 350mgs a day, the increase in scale of red blood cell counts does not remain proportional to the increased dosage of the chemical. [MeanOne's Note: This is to say while 50 mgs may increase production some 20%, it doesn't increase at that pace every 50mgs.]" Dr. Jason R. Princeston, "Blood preesure and blood vessel considerations" 1997, MELN: 95324-r65 "As blood pressure increases, do to arterial blockage, stress, or illness, the apparent inside diameter of the bodies blood vessels increases. This is to point to the theory that blood vessels are very elastic in their ability to conform to needs presented by the body." All of these studies can be located in a local medical library equiped with Economics Medical Reference Material. I have provide the reference listing numbers, so that you can read the studies in their entirety. I can't beleive I actually wasted enough time on you to look this up, but you have yourself a nice day, and if you need help removing your foot from your mouth, I have a pry bar since I know it's pretty far in there. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 78 |
MeanOne and Fonz. If you guys want to have a showdown, use the post that Fonz just started and take it in there. I really want to be able to read my post here. Thanks. ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 466 |
It's not a showdown, it's simply a shutdown of the big mouth. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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Excuse me Mean One, but all your studies are based on TRAUMA patients, anemics, AIDS victims etc.... I succintly said: HEALTHY HUMAN SUBJECTS damn it! You can quote 10,000+ studies on the subject. I know. But let's face it you can't find a study on healthy people, can you? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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I did gather some helpful advice during all that flaming. I guess you guys did help me in an unconventional sort of way. I was really hoping to see some more articles about Anadrol's activation times, sides, etc. I'm definately greatful though. Thanks. ------------------ | ||
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Novice
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Damn, I'm going back to Anabolics.com. Buncha bitches over here!!!!!!!! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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I'll take getting flamed on Elite anytime over Anabolics.com Godspeed | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
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BTW people, if you passed over the last part of my orignial post, DO NOT COPY WHAT I DID! I did that after 3 years of experience and having weekly blood work done. However, it CAN be done, by SOME people, but not all. Is it worth your life to find out if you can do it? No. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
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Sorry, double post for an unknown reason??? [This message has been edited by MeanOne (edited February 03, 2001).] | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 466 |
Guess I'll just give this a good ole' whack up to the top for others, so they can see what studies say as oppossed to theory and rumor. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 289 |
MeanOne, give it up. I think we killed the discussion topic already. Godspeed |
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posted February 02, 2001 03:11 AM