Actually, some users on the fina board have reported positive results, admittedly though they do say dmso or inj works better. So it's not totally outlandish.

You made my point exactly. I know that taking fina as is orally is not as effective as other methods. That's what I'm getting out. How can we MAKE it orally bioavailable. One thought was to just separate the tren from the junk. I'm also going to look into actually separating the tren from the acetate.

I know you all get tired of seeing posts similar to this, but if you really read it, this post is different.

You can get 100 pellets for $35. Why pay $35 more just for the stupid kit?

Also, is there any way to make it injectible without the kit?

Answer: Now I have mixed feelings about everyone knowing how to use fina easily cuz I don't want it to become harder to get, but here goes anyway. My opinion on the kits is that they are a needless step. The TA will dissolve from the pellets directly into hot vegetable oil (with or without benzyl alcohol), as long as there is sufficient stirring/agitation.

It�s easier if the pellets are crushed into a powder, but even straight they will eventually dissolve. It takes a couple of hours and the oil should probably not be heated higher than the boiling point of water (a container of the pellets/oil placed in a steamer would therefore work well). The TA will dissolve into the oil, and the excipients (binders etc) will be suspended. If you let it cool and sit then the binders will settle to the bottom and the clear oil on top will be suitable for injection.

The TA can be dissolved into DMSO, or Andro Spray, or alcohol etc. and applied transdermally as an option. Another option is just to crush them and eat them. Believe it or not, trenbolone is very orally active and is excreted as a conjugate of either unchanged trenbolone or the 17-epimer of trenbolone (meaning it is very resistant to metabolic

inactivation). Hey, it�s all in the scientific literature if you do not believe me. The only problem is that the half life is might not be very long, so you might have to pop the stuff 4 times a day. But the total absorption into the body will be higher taking it orally than taking it transdermally so it might be worth it. The injectable is still best of course.

[EDITORS NOTE: What? Taking trenbolone orally actually works? I have got to start reading something more than comic books my friends, as this is a first for me. Since I�m sure this is going to cause some major debate on the boards, I�ll ask Pat for some scientific references. And for those of you that are still hell-bent on buying a kit, I believe you can find the information you�re looking for in one of the earliest issues of AE in an article dealing with cattle implants. Happy trails.]

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If you heat up the oil, you CAN squeeze it through a 25g needle, with effort, so if your worried about injection marks that might help. However 23g is your best bet, if not 22g.

I can understand the idea or question that you are trying to bring to light, but is it not just slightly dead? The reason I say this is because if one is serious enough about his sports to begin self administering steriods, then they should be dedicated enough to stick themselves at least once a day. Think about it, insulin patients have to do it once or twice a day normally, so it's not like it's unheard of to give yourself a daily injection. If nothing else, you could expert with site injecting to see if you like it. Basicly if you want to stuff to work, it has to make it to the receptors, which is very hard to do orally being that it will be broken down long before it can pass through an intenstinal wall into the blood stream.