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Mass Monster

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posted February 02, 2001 01:36 AM

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Hey Bro's here is a post from my friend who is need of a little help some of you know him he used to be an active member of this board. He is now feeling better and looking for our help

Mass Monster

Here's his letter:


Hey remember I told you I was diagnosed with the skin disease? Well my
doctors never actually figured out what it was completely, however its
getting better and I have a theory that since I was injecting so much oil/
test suspension into my body w/the T200 at least 600mg/week that my glands
could not excrete it fast enough so they backed up and resulted in somewhat
of an inflamation. Because of that I have decided that if I use anything it
will only consist of orals and very mild doses of injectables, say 250
sustanon a week and some clenbuterol. Anyways the reason I am writing is
because I am going to pick up pieces of my next cycle here and there. I
figured that since you were still on a board you could ask the guys for a
good cycle, that includes clen, possibly D-bol and something else. Let them
know I was at 210 and now I am at 180-185 again I basically lost everything,
my goal is to reach 200 again but concentrate on being ripped as hell, got to
get rid of the gut I gained. My last cycle was 600mg/ test 200, 200
mg/deca(8weeks), and 5 tabs d-bol(5weeks) a week. So I don't know if I'll be
screwed using mild doses now. If you have any suggestions let me know.


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Mass Monster

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posted February 02, 2001 01:40 AM

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Here is the advice I gave my bro what do you guys think?

Mass Monster


* when I pasted it the cycle got mis-alligned but you should be able to make it out a little


no problem posting that up and I will see what the guys have to say and I will see if they know you because i have gotten really tight with most of the big guys and mods. Well I know I am no expert but over the past year I have gained much much knowledge and experience through the board my experiences and friends. I have many connects so hooking you up at good prices is no problem but If you are serious about doing this again I wouldn't want to see anything bad happen. I will give u some advice and also post on the board for you and get you some advice. First I want to let you know that the primoteston is real it is a new batch of clear liquid that was put out last year. However, I do not recoommend using Test-Enanthate at all to many sides because of it's highly anabolic and androgenic and aromatizes easily like Anadrol(you don't want to mess with for now anyways). It will give you big strength and size gains but there are safer ways to do it. Also It is fairly toxic to the liver which you gotta watch for the time being and you will hold to much water and gains will dissipate. If it is cut you are looking for there are several ways to get a good start. Since you haven't cycled in a while your receptors have cleared and your gains should be impressive if you time everything properly and give your body what it needs. I would say definitly use primobolan depot because it is one of the safest anabolic steroids used today. People usually don't report huge gains, but the great thing about Primobolan Depot is that the gains made from it are permanent ones. It is also used when tailing down off a course to hold some of the mass. Probably the best part is it does not aromatize, is not toxic, and it has low androgenic properties however it does have low doeses of test-enan but it would pack on the size. With this you could consider Equipoise because this drug will provide steady gains in size and strength. And when used with primobolan it gives the best results creating a nice hard muscle (I mean this is an awesome combo). If it's the size you are wanting stack it with Sustanon or Dianabol. For getting back on a dosage up to 300 mgs a week would be good. However the downside is you would have to split up so that you are taking a shot every other day which can be a bitch. Next up is Arimidex, This is new and a little pricy but its the way of the future I don't know this for sure, but I would logically say that you wouldn't need Nolvadex while taking Arimidex. Arimidex gets rid of estrogen, while Nolvadex only binds to the receptors so that estrogen can't bind. So I can't see why you would need Nolvadex to block the receptors if there is nothing there to bind to them. Which is good because this unlike nolva does not hinder gains prevents water retention and gyno as well as packs on mass and give a cut hard look. (Especally with Eq and Primobolan!) All that stuff is relativly safe and powerful now I would say to get the siz up again hit the d-bol bro but not thai whatever u do it is really shitty (russians are good).This will be Good for strength and size gains, but water retention can be a problem especially at high doses but stay low for now I would say 4-5 tabs a day my advice is to only run it for weeks 1-4 to jump start your cycle do not taper thats a big mistake most people make. The Arimidex will take care of water retention and the est-sides. The d-bol and primobolan is an awesome combo and you will get solid and perminate gains. So no nolva need or HCG you will be stright. at the end I would run clomid after last shot 100mg/day for a week and then 50mg e/d for 2 more. Personally I fucking hate clomid it will make u break out but your natrul test should be balenced from the primobolan and Arimidex. so you might only want to do 2 weeks now you said something about Clenbuterol it is usually used at a dosage of 60-120 mcgs per day (which is 3 - 6 tabs) I would taper in the first week to adjust you body and then pin 6 tabs a day for two weeks, divided throughout the day. Then take a break because it will be ineffective because it floods your receptor really fast. After two weeks off( which there are several drugs you can take that work well with the clen) go back on it for two more ar 6 tabs/day. After you should have made more gains than you have ever dreamed of seriously its a sick cycle and pretty safe definitly mild. Here are some side of clen so u know they include nervousness, tremors of the hands, headaches and insomnia (nothing to serious). If you do do the clen do it after the second week of the post cycle and cut week 3 of the clomid off. I hope this helps you bro and gives you some ideas. If you need any help just give me a call or e-mail me and i will see what I can do. I also am going to check with my bro's on the board but I am sure they will agree with me 100% maybe give so post cycle suggestions with the clen. Well take it easy bro talk to you later and here is a estimated cycle that mightbe good:

---Week-----------Primobolan----------EQ-------------D-bol-----------Clomid--------Arimidex-----Clen-----

----1---------------400mg-----------------------------25mg-----------------------------*-----------------

----2---------------400mg-----------------------------25mg-----------------------------*-----------------

----3---------------400mg------------300mg------------25mg-----------------------------*-----------------

----4---------------400mg------------300mg------------25mg-----------------------------*-----------------

----5---------------400mg------------300mg---------------------------------------------*-----------------

----6---------------400mg------------300mg---------------------------------------------*-----------------

----7---------------400mg------------300mg---------------------------------------------*-----------------

----8---------------400mg------------300mg---------------------------------------------*-----------------

----9---------------400mg------------300mg---------------------------------------------*-----------------

----10-------------------------------300mg---------------------------------------------*-----------------

----11-----------------------------------------------------------------100mg/d---------*-----------------

----12------------------------------------------------------------------50mg/d---------------------------

----13-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------120mcg/d--

----14-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------120mcg/d--

----15---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

----16---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

----17-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------120mcg/d--

----18-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------120mcg/d--

----19---------NOW YOU SHOULD BE ABSOULTLY RIPPED AND JACKED UP 20+ LBS----------------------------------


* not sure the best way to run the Arimidex

- weeks 15 and 16 you will need a bridge drug not sure what would be best in your case


Let me know what you think and if it helped


Mass Monster


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posted February 02, 2001 02:07 AM

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Come on, someone has to have some advice.
I am gonna give it a nice BUMP!

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posted February 02, 2001 02:59 AM

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Guess no ones up at 3am!

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Wrongun

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posted February 02, 2001 07:30 AM

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I have just had a 12 month layoff and have started this cycle:
week1 dianabol 6 per day
week2 -| |- 6
week3 -| |- 8
week4 -| |- 10
week5 dianabol 10, clenbuterol 2 per day
week6 clenbuterol 5 per day
week7 clenbuterol 5 per day
week8 ephedrine 3 per day
week9 ephedrine 3 per day

On week 2 and already seeing good gains. I will taper Clen & ephe so hopefully don't get sides.
On completion will have 3 weeks off (only Clomid) and repeat.

All oral and i have high hopes. If you want i will keep you posted as to how i get on
let me know


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hambone

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posted February 02, 2001 08:52 AM

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the whole thing sounds like a bunch of bs to me! 1st off suspension is water based so what does that got to do with too much oil? and how the f**k is that going to cause his glands to back up?
you tell him not to use enanthate because of the sides and it aramatises to easily! that's what arimidex is for
he says he wants a cycle with very little oil, look at all that f**king oil your telling him to inject!
not wanting to flame ya but you ought to think before you post
don't ya think?


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posted February 02, 2001 09:43 AM

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Damn Ham - Chill the fuck out! I am just trying to get him some help yes there is a mild amount of oil but you can't have an all oral cycle and plan to keep your gains and this cycle fits the goals he is looking for. Look when you are taking fucking drugs you can't really win and to get where u want to get there are sacrifices and dangers that must be faced. You got me!

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Wrongun

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posted February 02, 2001 10:36 AM

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I agree with Mass at the end of the day we are talking about drugs and there are risks. It usually works the better & quicker the results the more the risk. I thought thia is waht this board was all about learning from others and minimising the risks with the best gains so no point flamimg eachother.
This is my point about ephedrine, great results but risk. That is why a short burst should keep to a minimum.
We all have different opinions and our bodies react in different ways that is why this is the best place to learn.

Feel free to tell me to fuck off if you want but that is my $ worth.


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hambone

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posted February 02, 2001 11:15 AM

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mass, you asked "here is the advice I gave what do you bro's think?"

when you say stuff like primo has enanthate in it(it does'nt) and arimidex will pack on mass (it won't) you say primo and arimidex will ballance out his natural test (wrong)

I have to tell ya, your advice sucks, no offense intended

peace



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posted February 02, 2001 12:43 PM

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quote:
originally posted by Mass Monster:
"...use primobolan depot...Probably the best part is it does not aromatize, is not toxic, and it has low androgenic properties however it does have low doeses of test-enan..."

[QUOTE]Originally posted by hambone:
"...when you say stuff like primo has enanthate in it(it does'nt)...


I have never heard Primo contains "test-enan." I think that is one thing hambone was referring to? (not speaking for anyone here). But...the following is extracted from the Ester article often referenced on this site. I am putting this up for added clarification:

"Enanthate: Chemical Structure C7H14O2. Also referred to as heptanoic acid; enanthic acid; enanthylic acid; heptylic acid; heptoic acid; Oenanthylic acid; Oenanthic acid. Enanthate is one of the most prominent esters used in steroid manufacture (most commonly seen with testosterone but is also used in other compounds like Primobolan Depot). Enanthate will release a steady (yet fluctuating as all esters are) level of hormone for approximately 10-14 days. Although in medicine enanthate compounds are often injected on a bi-weekly or monthly basis, athletes will inject at least weekly to help maintain a uniform blood level.

Later,


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hambone

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posted February 03, 2001 03:03 PM

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1911, yes that is 1 of the things I was refering to,
thanks for helping to clarify


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