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MeanOne

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posted February 01, 2001 03:14 AM

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Myself, as well as others have been touting the benfits of Velvet Bean for some time. It helps stabalize brain chemistry, realeases additional GH, and is a great idea for post cycle recovery particularly since GH levels tend to be quite low after long cycles.

I just was sifting through a supplement ad (otherwise known as "Flex"), and it appears that Pinnacle Bodyonics makes a product called "AlphaDopa." It is my firm beleif, based on my experience in the past with velvet bean, that this product would be a great addition to your post cycle recovery, and mental well being needs. Please look into it, it runs like $34 for 30 servings, I would at least double or tripple that, but it seems to be a valuable product in all the BS suppliments out there today.


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Pharm Animal

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posted February 01, 2001 03:37 AM

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is it an alternative to the parkinson's disease drug, l-dopa? thanks for the info bro

PA


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ghans

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posted February 01, 2001 04:13 AM

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Not exactly cheap is it?

ghans


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The_Iron_Game

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posted February 01, 2001 04:28 AM

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$102 IMO would be better spent on some clen, clomid and some primo to help me keep post cycle gains

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MeanOne

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posted February 01, 2001 01:43 PM

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Iron, I was assuming that they would already be using those things, lol. No, but seriously guys, don't just pass this over, I don't think you understand the very important mental benefits to velvet bean. It's increases thought clarity, stabalizes brain chemistry, increases GH production, and promotes much better sleep. I just gunna give this a big fat ass BUMP for maybe a few others to read, because I do think it's important.


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anabolic24/7

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posted February 01, 2001 01:55 PM

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Judging by some of the post lately alot of the bro's could use something that helps with mental clarity :-)


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Adonis

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posted February 01, 2001 01:58 PM

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anabolic 24/7, Now thats funny


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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted February 01, 2001 02:13 PM

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Meanone-What is the dosage that you have noticed to be effective in these regards with this product?


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MeanOne

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posted February 01, 2001 02:24 PM

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While i have not used THIS product yet (buying some today), about 1-2 grams of Velvet bean. Every 4 caps of this product yeilds 666.6 mgs of Velvet bean, so I figure by doubling or tripling the dosage you should be in the range. Velvet been is normally 15% L-Dopa, which is what you are really after in this product. It also has two other compounds, and I can't really speak from experience on if those work well at their intended purpose, but Velvet bean DOES! I have been looking for a good source for VB for some time now, so when I found this, I posted it. I used to get some from GOY, but well....Drama unfolded. Either way, VB = good stuff!


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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted February 01, 2001 02:29 PM

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Cool.I'm always open-minded with anything that can augment the recuperative processes.Thanks for the pass-along...


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VoxDeis

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posted February 01, 2001 04:05 PM

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I am glad to see the Velvet Bean is getting some good press. I introduse the product months ago on ana.com and still sell it. The one to 2 grams quantity will not do much at all the research points to 3.5-5 grams to reap the cognitive and physical benifits. You can read more about on it on my website www.anabolicsuccess.com


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MeanOne

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posted February 01, 2001 06:05 PM

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Thanks for you addition. Vox is also a source for Velvet Bean, from what I understand, pretty reasonably priced. To bad he bad mouths those he doesn't know, such as myself, or he might get some more respect for what he claims.


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Pharm Animal

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posted February 01, 2001 06:36 PM

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l-dopa is a fucked up drug....i didn't like the way i felt on it AT ALL....must be rough to have Parkinson's

PA


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cockdezl

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posted February 01, 2001 07:48 PM

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Velvet Bean (Mucuna pruriens, sp?) can be purchased in bulk from Beyond-a-century.com. They sell a 15% standardized extract. The problem with L-Dopa is that it tends to cause nausea in normal doses (150mg+), and can cause certain dyskinesias. Also, without a peripheral decarboxylase inhibitor, such as carbidopa, the majority of it with be converted into dopamine outside of the CNS, which increases blood pressure. Sinemet, Deprenyl, and Parlodel are dopaminergic drugs that can be purchased from overseas.


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Fonz

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posted February 01, 2001 08:03 PM

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Physically speaking, the reason why people sense
a clearer head while taking L-Dopamine, is that it
normalizes the Para sympathetic nervous system,
or PNS for short. What MeanOne forgot to mention is
that combining dopamine or dopamine derrivatives with
Sympathetic nervous system stimulants(SNS) such
as ephedrine and Clen, is extremely dangerous. It's
like your brain having two electric circuits. One main
one(SNS), and a back-up(PNS). If you ran them on
high at the same time you would short-circuit your brain.
e.g. Too much neural stimulation=above normal
electrical activity in an environment that is very
subsceptible to voltage changes.


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