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 How similar are deca and equipose???
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Pro Bodybuilder 
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I have alway heard that deca and eq are wery similar, But never heard facts. Does eq aromatize to progesterone as deca?? Does eq cause deca dick?? Can I use proscar while on eq (we all know that we can�t while on deca)?? Does deca and eq use the same receptors?? Thanks ------------------     | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 456 |
Up | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 391 |
curious too. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 107 |
I'd also like a bump on this one ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 109 |
BUMP Will a MOD please respond I too was wondering the same thing. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 1064 |
You should e-mail Huck F for the low down on your question. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 107 |
i think they should post this one, there seems to be a lot of people interested ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1429 |
I think the main similarities are in the end result and the increase in protien synth. Eq aromitizes slightly to estrogen. Deca to progesterone. Deca will cause you to retain more water, making it more of a mass steroid. Where eq on a strict diet will make you appear harder and more vascular. They can be substituted in a cycle with only slight differences in end results. ------------------ "Catch a man a fish, he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish, and he eats for a lifetime." | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1189 |
i think the main advantage of deca is that it is beneficial to the hair and skin. i would like to know more about EQ myself. those old steroid profiles we see posted everywhere have many many flaws, anadrol being a prime example cuz they all say it turns to estrogen. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 629 |
EQ is close to Deca as far as pure muscle tissue gains/protein synthesis, but it is actually chemically similar to Dianabol....wierd. must be the undecyclinate ester chain in the boldenone hormone that makes it break down so slowly. As a matter of fact I think that boldenone is chemically identical to methandrostenelone, but don't quote me on that. Hope to help rather than to confuse. Peace. Marauder out. ------------------ DRAGO'S WIFE: "He's like your popeye...He ate his spinach." "Those that bleed with me today...become my brothers tomorrow." -William Shakespeare | ||
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Guru 
Posts: 5410 |
They are both class-I steroids(meaning their primary mode of action is aggressive binding and activation of the A/R).Equipoise does NOT activate the P/R(progesterone receptor)but will activate the E/R at moderate dosages.Finasteride probably won't be effective against eq,as it doesn't convert to DHT readily.Topical hair loss products such as nizoral and flutamide would be more suitable for follicle protection with eq... | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1085 |
They are not closely related chemically. EQ is a testosterone derivative and deca is derived from nortestosterone (female hormone). D-bol is, as Marauder stated, methylated boldenone; the difference in sides between d-bol and EQ can be attributed to the addition of the methyl group. What Huck said above is correct. [This message has been edited by the truth (edited February 01, 2001).] | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 58 |
OK, someone please settle this for me once and for all..yes i have done the search and yada yada..and nothing conclusive has come up..i just want a final stamp on this..What about doing both deca and Eq. in a cycle.. i've heard..awesome stack..and then i've heard..waste of time due to how similiar they are..please answer. | ||
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Guru
Posts: 5410 |
They would work fine together,but stacking either of them with a class-II steroid such as dianabol or winstrol would produce much more dramatic results from a synergistic standpoint... | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 408 |
milligram for milligram, is one more anabolic than the other? ------------------ | ||
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Guru
Posts: 5410 |
Deca will slightly outperform eq on an anabolic/muscular-performance level,mg per mg... | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 58 |
The gods have spoken, thanks LOL. I will sacrafice 10 sust. amps in your honor  ..oh by the way..you mentioned winstrol, and i know its off topic, but does drinking winny lessen its effect? also i've heard that winny is bad for losing hair..ect..any truth to that Huckleberry? | ||
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Guru
Posts: 5410 |
Winstrol,whether taken intra-muscularly,or by oral administration,will pass through several times and ultimately be metabolized by the liver.Save the injection holes for non-17aa gear...All A/S are equally rough on the hair-line for those pre-disposed to MPB,with the exception of deca,which is reduced to less harmful steroids when it reaches the scalp.... [This message has been edited by HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex (edited February 01, 2001).] | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1221 |
good post huckleberry | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 119 |
Huck, I guess winny taken intramuscularly or orally doesn't make a difference in terms of optimality? I thought winny taken IM would allow it to circulate longer in the body. | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 42 |
This may sound stupid but i was considering using both for this one reason. Lesson the chance of loosing my hair by using deca because I am prone to MPB and lesson my chance of progesterone related problems by keeping the dose down and using EQ with it. But....if EQ is equal to test as far as the hairline is considered I guess that would make no sense. I don't know. I'm still learning | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 42 |
If EQ doesn't readily convert to DHT then would it be of much concern to use anything for the hair? | ||
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Guru
Posts: 5410 |
DHT is not the only harmful steroid metabolite to the hair follicle.Excess androgens of any nature,once they reach the scalp,can accelerate the balding process... | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 21 |
What are the main steroids for hair loss, and where does eq and deca and sust fall into. | ||
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Guru
Posts: 5410 |
All steroids,on a mg per mg basis,have basically the same potential for aggrevating follicle deterioration,with deca being the gentlest in this regard,and perhaps test being the most aggressive to a slight degree... | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 42 |
Thanks Huck for your input. As you say, "All androgens can accelerate the balding process". "Process" is the key word. Some of us are bound to lose it anyway. It's a matter of how hard we want to try to keep it. If we're so determined to keep every strand, especially the younger guys, we should stay away all together. Otherwise, stick to just deca and hope for the best. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 67 |
i like deca for it's ability to ease joint pain, my 1st couple of cycles my grip would almost go away like 15 min. into a workout, damn fingers ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 28 |
My personal opinion of deca and EQ... I pick EQ. Less of the unwanted sides. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 21 |
Me and my freind are doing similar cycles, i am doing sust and deca , and he is doing sust and eq. Both of us will do clen at the end. we were also wondering the differences in the results. We dont think there will be much diff, but maybe someone can tell us . will we keep about the same gains after were off? | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1429 |
Well it all depend on the individuals diet, genetics, etc. I can say if one of you took 1 at a time, you would see a little more size and smoothness with the deca/sus. This is if you have the exact diet etc. The sus eq will make you more vascular and hard. This is if you dont let the eq hunger take control. ------------------ "Catch a man a fish, he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish, and he eats for a lifetime." | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 396 |
I've done deca and EQ together and I gained 16 solid pounds, but I ate like a horse. I was ripped to hell, too. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 519 |
This turned into a HUCK seminar...I admire your knowledge. ------------------ | ||
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Freak 
Posts: 1939 |
I havent stopped using EQ in 2 years...never used deca..Im very vasciular and have no problems...huck, maruder..you know your shit |
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posted January 31, 2001 04:58 PM
