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 Enough with the suicide cycle
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 591 |
how is 2500mg of test a suicide cycle? You guys act like a dose that high is going to kill you or something. I'm doing 1500 my next cycle, hell I would do 2500 if I could afford it, the only thing is not to go up high too quick, then you HAVE to take that much to continue to grow. I guess so many are impressed because of all the pussy cycles I see floating around here. Guys think that 1000 mg is high, let me tell you its not, its nothing more then an EFFECTIVE dose of test. So quit blowing it out of proportion, you guys are acting like little kids...By the way I'm not flaming you conan, but these groupies that are so impressed by what your doing is pathetic. ------------------     | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 1250 |
The body produces between 35-70mg of Test. a week. For most people I would say that these doses are too much. I guess if you've been hitting test. hard for a time or you overdosed your cycle originally than perhaps you may need 1250mg p/w. I would argue that 2500mg of test a week is not neccessary for most people. In fact unless you need it, doing this is a sure way of downgrading your receptors prematurely. I do 750mg of test a week and some would argue that this is excessive. The thing is I am making good gains - I don't believe if I doubled the amount I would double the gains. As you pointed out it is expensive therefore I would rather save the money for a later cycle. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 90 |
Why do people think you have to take massive doses of juice to get gains? I gained 33 pounds in 10 weeks doing a cycle of 30 mg's of dbol a day, 400 mg's test a week, and 400 mg's deca a week. 33 pounds! If I was to take 60 mg's of dbol, 800mg's of test, and 800 mg's of deca would I have gained 66 pounds?? No, it would just be a waste to take any more, in fact I probably could have taken less and gotten the same gains, it's all in how hard you train ------------------ | ||
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Freak 
Posts: 1923 |
Michael, yes 800mgs of deca is a waste, no 800mgs of test is not. You will grow considerably more muscle on 800mg of test than on 400mg and the sides are indistinguishable. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 90 |
Maybe, but I just don't see how it would have been possible for me to gain any more than I did. That was my first cycle and now I'm at the beggining of my second. Right now I'm on a Sust only cycle taking 500mgs a week, I'm on my 11th day and have already gained 9 pounds, which I'm not sure if it's attributed to the Sust or the increased food intake, either way I'm gaining size. I'm 5'9 190, and looking to get around 205 this cycle. ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 497 |
I dont think that 100 or 2500 mg of test is too much, I agree with you on size and growth its definitely A ONE TO ONE RATIO with Test and mass, the more you do the bigger you get and can retain. My only concerns with high doses is gyno and liver problems. So I stay with lower doses. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 591 |
My first cycle was 30 mg of d-bol and 400 mg of Eq. I gained 35 lbs, about 15-20 of muscle. But the thing that you fail to realize is that you are small. Doing a cycle to get to 190 lbs? that is pathetic, if you can't get to 200 lbs without gear you are a joke in my opinion. See once you actually get somewhere, like in the 250-260 range the little pussy cycles designed for the 190 lb scrubs are not going to cut it. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 278 |
blond, i dont agree, by 200 lbs u mean off season or in season? i have seen guys who compete at 152 that look 30x better than you ever will, so your idea of body weight being related to how you look is a dead wrong point, height related maybe, weight related, not at all
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 89 |
hey blond myth, i have to disagree with you i'm 245 at about 10% right now (off) and my cycles are pretty damn low dosages - at least according to this board - ALWAYS under 1000mg/week, and a negligible amount of test, usually in the range of 250-400/wk (susta or enathate) like dude said above, your training and your diet take precedent i don't see the need for such high dosages and the possibility of sides plus, then when you come off, you fucking lose so much even if you take the accessory shit like clomid on the one hand, i agree that 2500mg/wk is not high compared to the pros on the other hand, if you're not a national level dude, why fuckin bother with those high ass dosages? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 287 |
unless my livlihood were to depend on this im gonna stick to under a gram a week- im 240 now - and might be 250-260 some day -but im not gonna sacrifice to the potential sides that come with 2500 wk- although it would amazing to have that much flowing through me- im not convinced on cost vs benefit - tomo |
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posted January 31, 2001 02:26 PM
