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 Is winstrol good for speed?
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Cool Novice 
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I know that it is the drug that Ben Johnson got cought doing but is it really that good for speed. i was about to start a cutting cycle and I was wondering if i should add winstrol for speed.    | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 456 |
I believe so. I heard thet Michael Jordan used it a lot also.  | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 456 |
I believe so. I heard thet Michael Jordan used it a lot also. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 456 |
I believe so. I heard thet Michael Jordan used it a lot also. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 482 |
Combo of Test+anti estrogen(Arimidex) should be very good for speed.Winny should be also. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 65 |
Big XII - where are you from - I'm a Big XII fan also - Go Tigers! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 183 |
good for stamina too. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 79 |
Hell yeah, dropped me from a 4.5 sec. 40m to a 4.3. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 502 |
yeppers, Winny works well on the fast twitch muscle groups. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 176 |
WINNY DROPPED MY SPEED TO A 4.39 FROM A 4.58 | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 17 |
what dose of winny is best for increasing speed? | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 20 |
For the last F******* time...winny doesn't do shit for speed... Speed is a result of fast twitch muscle fibers which are also the direct result for strength...so why is Winny not mentioned as the ultimate strength drug... In a study on olympic powerlifters, on average they had faster 40 yard times than the olympic sprinters!!! and verticles that elipesed the high jumpers!!! Now if you are telling me they are on large doses of winny, than you are sorely mistaken... The king of speed is test since 1. It is the king of strength and 2. It does not inhibit endurance like the queen of strength, Fina... | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 1189 |
i would think that any steroid that doesn't cause water retention would be good for speed. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 986 |
"The king of speed is test since 1. It is the king of strength and 2. It does not inhibit endurance like the queen of strength, Fina..." I tried sprinting while on tren and drol, and it was pretty funny. No endurance, and my hams got over-pumped early in the workout. While sprinting on Winny was better, I do didn't like the fact that it made me sort-of stiff (is this because of the lack of fluid retention or something?). I had to warm-up and stretch more when on winny. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 17 |
i would be interested in seeing the study that you mention about the powerlifters? | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 986 |
The study was on Olympic Weightlifters, not powerlifters. It was during the 68 mexico olympics. The 20 yard dash times of the OL lifters (even the heavy weights) were better than the sprinters. At by 40 yards though the sprinters had the edge. It really is two types of speed. When I ran track my 20yd block start time was one of the best on the team, but I would get smoked in the 55m and 100m. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 240 |
do u guys know how fast a real 4.3 is??? peter warrick ran a 4.48 at the combine before he entere the nfl,if u guys pick up a nfl draft magizine( alot of them should be out soon because the draft is coomming soon i think) u will see that out of all the players no more than 3 can run 4.3 or lower just to get u guys started ,here are a few links http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/draft/cb.html
[This message has been edited by chillin408 (edited January 31, 2001).] | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 17 |
im with you chillin i have met alot of guys and only a couple have ran legit 4.3's. so what is the final answer use test or should i throw in the winny just in case it does improve speed? | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 482 |
I copied and pasting Animal's post on Varix board,it answer your question. --------------------------------------------- "For speed you need nerve excitation and coordination along with the power. Test is the best. Winstrol will get you busted as would deca and abombs just suck. See below for my application of just about any AS for endurance and speed. Now, for the training, you have to train the nerves as I mentioned above and the best way to train your legs to go fast is on a stationary bike. Put some resistance, but no to much, like 150Watts or so, and then warm-up for ten minutes. AFter that you are gonna do 5-10 intervals of 120RPM for 1 minute and then back. (Work your way to 200rpm) First you need to know that any AS will saturate your HPT so you will need clomid in the end. I have rather extensive experience with this on my own and with consulting other elite athletes. Yes, the sport is cycling, but sprinting and endurance are all the same. Any AS will increase your hematocrit which is going to help recovery and slow lactic acid build-up but can you find the AS that does that with the least amount of sides? Read on. If you want to take a test based AS you will need to take an anti E to keep water wt down and supressing E also stops fat deposition and aids in fat loss. Winny probably won't do much, but make you ripped. Didn't do a thing for endurance and stays in the body a long time. Deca just sucks all around. Anadrol sides are too great and can't be controlled with an anti-E so any hematocrit and strength benefits are outweighed with water gain and tightness. Trenbolone is good for strength and power, but inhibits endurance and my inhibit sprinting because of the pumps that may hurt. Pumps hurt in the legs. Test is good for all this, but you will need the anti-E as mentioned above and you still may get the pumps. Dbol tends to cause pumping in the calves that hurts or inhibits endurance and you will do well to take an anti-E with that, too. In the end, however, I've found that if you take the dbol at 10-15mg after and only after a workout, you eliminate most of the sides and you get all the benefits. This has worked on numerous people in various sports. (If I was doing it, though I would take 1/4mg of anastrozole EOD, too, but for most it's not necessary on this protocol.) Another experiment to try maybe taking an oil based testosterone shot like Tp, 6-12 hours before your workout because it peaks in about 12 hours. A water based shot would be taken about 6 hours before. You wouldn't need any more than 100-200mg on workout days. (Tp can be put into a water based solution as well which would allow for better control.) " ------------------------------------------- As you can see,using Test makes the most sense. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 240 |
i dont know anything about which steriod are better,but just wanted to say i read somewhere that linford christe tested positive for nanadrolene,oh yea also if anyone is interested charlie frances,ben johnsons coach u can email him questions somewhere on testosterone.net,i think he has wrote some articles on that site too [This message has been edited by chillin408 (edited February 01, 2001).] | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 315 |
how long does it take for prop to peak? isn't it like 4 hours or sumpin??? | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 17 |
can i use the winny as an anti-e or do i need to use something else | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 482 |
Since when Winny is anti-estrogen? Prop picks in aproximately 12 hours. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 17 |
i am not saying that winny is an anti-e i am just saying that wont winny cut out the water weight i will gain from test? | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 482 |
Arimidex will.I can't really say how much Winny can counteract water retention,may be someone who used them together can. I'm using Sust/Fina/Winny and no bloating,but Fina adds here,so,it's hard to say. | ||
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Cool Novice
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so what are your gains on the sust/fina/winny combination? i wasnt sure about fina because i dont know the detection time. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 176 |
no disrespect chillin but if you want to time me.. not a problem. i play div I college football for a large college in the SEC. I am proabably one of the fastest in the conference.. oh and ive met peter before. He's not fucking fast. he runs good routes. thats what enables him to get open. Ive met over 40 people that run 4.3... oh and i didnt say it was a 4.3 flat.. i said 4.39 same as a 4.4..... so believe what you want.. not a big deal to me. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 17 |
also, one thing you have to remember is that you have to automatically subtract .2 seconds from what you see written in the pro magazines. a person that runs a 4.3 in college, will run a 4.5 in the pros because of the way that times are taken. a coach is a very forgiving person when it comes to taking times, but the machine timer used by the pro teams does not cheat. it starts as soon as your head moves, while the coach will start his time as soon as the athlete takes his first step. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 17 |
magic 11 i would be interested to see you forty time because i am sure you are not the fastest guy in the sec | ||
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Novice 
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Im in for seeing the TRUE 4.3 speed. LOL at seeing over 40 people run 4.3. And if im not mistaken there is only 1 projected 1st rounder even close to a 4.3 ...Santana Moss | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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I hope you guys are talking accutrack, and not hand times...not that I have any room to talk about speed. I'm barely breaking 5.0 with accutrack. I ran a 4.94, which is alright for a fullback. What positions do you guys play? Oh yeah, I wouldn't be talking too much shit about where you guys are from. If I was at a D-1 school, I wouldn't be sayin shit about playing d-1 ball. It's just not worth the risk. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 240 |
the .2 ,or.24 second difference,is if u get a unbiased coach to do it,if people in their backyard do it,it could me more than .2 off i belive u magic ,i was just saying that u hear people onilne saying 4.3,.4.2 ,4.4,even 4.5 ,like its a everyday thing,like its very common,if i could count how many times ive heard people say they run under 4.5 online,it would probably be more than the number or real people that can in a big state,i didnt say everyone was lying,i am sure a small percentage are being honest,but the liars spoil it for everyone else,and u dont know who to belive,i said in my earlier post congradulations if u realy do,and wish u the best | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 190 |
Ben Johnson in 1988 world record, tested positive for V, he was fast. |
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posted January 31, 2001 11:58 AM