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Amateur Bodybuilder 
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A friend of mine is way overweight, she wants to lose around 20-30 pounds. What is the best drug out there for that?     | ||
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Guru 
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Forget about magical solutions.Cardio,diet,and yes,WEIGHT TRAINING are what she needs at this point.Drugs should be the LAST resort when dieting,just to fine tune and sharpen cosmetic appearance.... | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 296 |
Along with diet and excercize her best bet is going to be the good old ephedrine and caffine stack (leave the aspirin out, it does nothing). Start w/ 25Mg ephedrine and 200Mg caffine split into 2 doses in a day and then move up to see just how much she can tolerate. Hold the upper limit for about 4 weeks and then taper back down. Stay off for a bout 3 weeks and repeat. She can also use clen on the weeks off from E/C | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 453 |
If she don�t do sports, it will be easy for her to loose most of the fat by doing aerobic, weight training and good diet. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 129 |
What most of us can not understand is that some people are not in the exercising/dieting mode. For them, to start exrcising and dieting is a life change. For us, it is just an adjustment. I think that sometimes, a pill is what causes people to get the extra motivation to start a program. Same way that AS give some people the extra motivation to start lifting seriousley. I know its an ass backwards way of working on it, but some people need that boost. Anyone heard anything about phen-phen for example? Is it as bad as FDA says? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 296 |
Yes. It is. Belive me, the E/C will give her more than enough motivation to get going. It's also a pretty good apetite suppresant as well as being dirt cheap and legal. | ||
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Guru
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Judge smales is right.If she absolutely has to have some sort of augmentation,the an E/C stack is where to start...It will certainly give her some pep,as well as stimulate thermogenisis,for an accelerated fat burning effect... | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 129 |
Best E/C or E/C/A stack? Any suggestions? | ||
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Guru
Posts: 5382 |
#1-Xenadrine #2-Adipokinetix #3-Ripped fuel Extreme | ||
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Moderator
Posts: 604 |
Huckleberry--Please explain your rating system on these therogenics. Why do you think one is better than the other? Just curious and have always wanted to know the difference. Between Adipokinetix and Xenadrine. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 1403 |
Huck, what about lipokintenix? Its adipo + the extra kick. Its supposed to be the best. ------------------ "Catch a man a fish, he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish, and he eats for a lifetime." | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1270 |
I heard that Lipo-K had been pulled from the market. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 183 |
I have used both Xenadrine and clenbuterol. I got fer better results from the xenadrine. Just my experience. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 51 |
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Judge Smales: Along with diet and excercize her best bet is going to be the good old ephedrine and caffine stack (leave the aspirin out, it does nothing). [\QUOTE] if the aspiring doesn't do anything why does everybody say to take it. all the magazines says that it helps. just curious. | ||
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Guru
Posts: 5382 |
I haven't yet come to a decision on the lipo,yet from a safety standpoint...As far as my rating on the others,I actually shouldn't have designated a # in front of them,as I feel they are all terrific thermogens,with different properties to each... Xenadrine has a potent combo of herbs-ephedrine/caffeine and SYNEPHRINE,as well as L-Tyrosine(which stimulates adrenal output) Adipokinetix contains Nor-ephedrine,which has been shown to display even more potent thermoginic activity than standard ephedrine.It also contains yohimbe,which is quite effective in any fat-fighting arsenal. Ripped fuel extreme is Twinlabs newest invention,and besides the potent E/C combination,it contains coleous forskoli(sp?)which has shown some rather promising effects as a nutrient partitioning agent(this means one would make better utilization of nutrients ingested,and display a favorable change in metabolic/cosmetic composition)... | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 129 |
www.syntrax.com has some wicked new supplements on it. Know anyone that has tried Guggubloic to lose weight? Just pronouncing the name would make you spend a few calories. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 296 |
smr91481- on the aspirin. When the E/C stack was first being researched there was a belief that aspirin would prolong the thermogenic activity of the stack by thinning the blood, so it was included. While later research has shown that it doesn't really add anything aspirin is so cheap that it add nothing to the manufacturing costs, and everybody is just conditioned to seeing it there. It's a sort of tradition. Now- on to something really important! Don't belive ANYTHING you see in a body building magazine. I mean NOTHING!! The magazines DO NOT exist to make you a better body builder. They exist to sell supplements and that's all. | ||
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Moderator
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I might also add and don't flame me on this one but it is essential that a supplement should also contain l-Carnitine and Chromium to aid the body in transporting FAT to be used as energy in the first place. You can have all the rush in the world, but your body needs to using fat for the fuel to be truly effective. Am I wrong here? Of course this comes from the view point of natural bodybuilding references. May wording may be all wrong, but you get the general jest of what I am trying to explain. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 296 |
I don't know about the carnitine (I guess it wouldn't hurt) but I have to stay away from chromium, especially when I'm low on carbs. It just fucks up my blood sugar levels too much. I wouldn't say they are essential. I've used just the E/C stack several times w/ great results. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 634 |
TEXAS GUNS I AGREE! I TAKE 2 PROLAB CUTS2 PILLS WITH MY E/C/Y STACK TO GET THE FULL FAT BURNING AFFECTS OF THE NATURAL HERBS. IT CONTAINS CHROMIUM PICOLINATE AND L-CARTINE AMONG OTHER THINGS AND IT HAS MADE A DIFFRANCE AND HAS HELPED ME CUT UP FASTER. GOOD INFO M18 | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 311 |
I know a lot of people hate Muscle Tech, but I've found Hydroxycut to be effective. | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 47 |
I like thermo core from metrex.It seems to keep me more level and not as nervous and shakey as xanidrene.maybe because its not as strong though.but xanidrie bugs the hell out of me. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 296 |
You can also buy the components separately and save a ton on $. 100 doses of ephedrine is aout $8 on line, and caffine is about $6 bucks/100, so you can put together 100 doses of the E/C stack for about $15, which is about half of what the premade stuff will cost, or maybe even less | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 311 |
Judge, Can you post the URL which sells ephedrine and caffeine at those prices? thanks. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 296 |
I haven't bought it in a while, but I'm pretty sure I got it at: http://www.sportsupplements.com/ and I recall having to look around the site for a while to find it. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 588 |
Gas stations in many states still carry Mini-Thins, which are ephedrine (25mg) and guafenesin (200mg). I can pick them up for around $5.00-7.00, for 60 tabs. K-Mart carries Jet Alert caffeine tabs (200mg) for $3.00 for 90 tabs. So my stack usually costs less than $10.00. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 230 |
www.nutritionmegastore.com has kaizen ephedrine hci 100(i think 100,it doesnt say,ive only seen it in 100 so thats why i say 100) 25mg tabs for 6.25,kaizen caffiene is 4.25 for 100 200mg capsules http://www.betterbodz.com/cgi-bin/store/shop.cgi?action=viewproduct&maincategory=&category=50&product=S139106 that link has it for 7.95 for 100 25mg caps,and i think the same site has caffeine for 3 something ,100 200mg caps
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 230 |
oh yea,just wanted to let u guys know,completesupplements.com i heard has more of a selection than what u see on their online store,they just dont show it,u have to email him or call him and ask if they have the product u want,chances are they do from what ive heard | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 27 |
I'm certain lipokinetix is off the market but syntrax did say it maybe coming back probably without the norephedrine and the sodium usniate which the usniate is awesome. Lipo is the best in my opinion, and I also have to say that adipo is better then xenidrine anyone see that on Leno about xenidrine funny. Anyhow maybe I'm out of line here but what about DNP that's the best fat burner there is as far as I know. I'm not sure but it goes something like eca increases metabolic rate 3% t3 5% and dnp 50% even up to 100% or maybe I'm thinking of something different I read. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 230 |
yea the administator at the syntrax.com guestbook said "Lipo. has been temporarily discontinued but may be back in production shortly. We'll keep you informed as things progress. " |
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posted January 31, 2001 10:59 AM