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Juice Junkie

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posted January 31, 2001 07:23 AM

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I am taking 100mg of (injectable) Fina everyday and I am up to 60mg of Dbol a day this week (last week was first week, started at 40mg a day) This is my first time with oral dbol of anykind though I have used Reforvit B several times. So far I am not all that impressed. Strength is going up but no water retention and little weight gain. I have taken fina enough times to know that the gains I am getting are mostly if not entirely from it. I realize it may take longer but I am just keeping you guys informed like you asked.


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whodaman

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posted January 31, 2001 09:14 AM

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It's early bro....I would also say that the fina (because of it fat burning effects/raise in body temperature) May be decresing your water retention.....After my last cycle, I was full of water until I started taking fina...and then the water just dropped off me.....good luck!!


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Juice Junkie

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posted January 31, 2001 02:11 PM

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Thnx man... Thats what I needed to hear.. I have never taken Dbol in anyother form other than the Reforvit. It might be doing its thing cause everytime I am on reforvit I get nose bleeds and shorty after writing my post I got one. I'll have to keep and eye on my BP I guess from here on out...


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Loophole Genetics

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posted January 31, 2001 02:15 PM

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Just my opinion here, but taking 100mg of fina/day and 60mg dball/day seems like too much. You'll get great results taking less. I think your wasting alot of the gear and putting unneccesary strain on your body. Just my opinion, though.


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DOGGY

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posted January 31, 2001 02:16 PM

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Friend,
I,m runing 6 squares a day into week 2,
and strength is out of control,water is
starting to develop.
I feel pretty good about the stuff.
DOGGY


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Juice Junkie

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posted January 31, 2001 02:29 PM

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Hey LG, Shut UP!... Just kidding...lol No for real educated advice is always welcome. I aprreciate your input. I have progressed upwards in dosage over the years taking fina and other AS's (like I said never done the dbol, but i started at 40mg for 1st week) In any case thats kind of where I stand right now. My last cycle of fina was done on 80mg a day for 5 weeks and showed decent results. 100mg is just the next step. The fina I am only doing for another 3 weeks its too harsh in my opinion to longer than 4-5 weeks then I am off of that and I'll finish on Dbol and maybe some test depending on the results and then of course HCG and Clomid. Thanks for help guys Thanks Doggy sounds like you and I are only a week apart keep me posted and I'll do the same...


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Mr. Nobody

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posted January 31, 2001 02:40 PM

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JJ,
the fina DOES prevent all that dbol bloat, which should not diminsh your pumps though.

Read:

"Gear Facts

There are many side effects when testosterone converts to estrogen. Not all of them are negative and that is why using androgenic gear is more helpful on bulking cycles.

I have written in the past about the differences in the SERM's (Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulators).

This article is an overview on how and when to use more "global" methods of managing estrogen conversion. When I state global I am referring to limiting the conversion of estrogen from testosterone so that the negative side effects of excessive estrogen are minimized.

The most common method to regulate estrogen levels are two drugs, Arimidex, and Femara. They both inhibit the enzyme that converts, changes, testosterone to estrogen.

Some take those drugs when on very high androgen cycles to keep the estrogen levels down. But, there are other ways of doing that, and I want to mention now that if you are trying to put on size estrogen is needed. Therefore you don't want to limit it completely.

Many people get confused to what another method of limiting estrogen conversion is all about. The name of the drug that is sometimes touted as an "estrogen blocker" is not that at all, but truly and androgen drug, Proviron.

Proviron works to limit estrogen in the same way that all non-aromatizing androgens limit testosterone conversion to estrogen.

The conversion process happens when the testosterone molecule attaches to the aromatase receptor and there an enzyme breaks the chemical down to produce estrogen. If you have another androgen that will bind to that receptor, that won't convert to estrogen, you are blocking the aromatase receptors and therefore cutting back on the conversion process.

When using any non-armatizing androgens you are blocking estrogen conversion."

Taken from: http://www.anabolicsuccess.com/newshtml/newsletter29.html

Less bloat means less convertion to estrogen, which is a good thing to a certain degree (I believe in a little estrogen for IGF-1)

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Tulk311

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posted January 31, 2001 11:09 PM

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Started my cycle this past thurs...300mg ttyokko deca a week and 30mg paperbol ed! I'm liking the paperbol so for I did 20mg ed for the first week(and notice a little), but decided to up the dose to 30...fuck it i want to get big! And I know that 30mg is tit to most of you guys! For you guys that are on the paperbol, keep me updated! Hit me with an email or something we can compare!
Later
Tulk311


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DocJ

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posted February 01, 2001 01:00 AM

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Do you swallow the entire square or let it dissolve under your tongue?

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