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IBUpRoFIN

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posted January 30, 2001 07:32 PM

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Hey guys!
I am 6 foot 6 and weigh 200 pounds....I am only 16 years old. I started as a sophmore for my varsity team (which never happens). My school has a 64 game winning streak. Anyways my coach has threatened to yank my starting spot away unless i gain a lot of weight by next year. I don't think he would actually do it....but i know if i can get up to 225-235 by my junior year i will be a major college prospect.
So anyways my exact question is is it safe for a teenager to use primobolan. I heard that In the book Anabolics 2000, Bill LLewyn states that Primo can be used for teenagers safely...Primobolan will also promote growth of the bones because it promotes the bones to retain and hold more calcium...
By the way I work very hard in the gym and I eat like a horse(6 meals a day) but I can't seem to gain weight.
Thanks for any advice!

and sorry about the long post


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posted January 30, 2001 07:39 PM

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hey, how long have you been lifting? i know when i was your age, i had the best gains in my life. i typically gained around 30-35 pounds per year, doubling my weight in four years. if i were you, i'd still try it naturally. if you think you're eating enough, then you ain't. bottomline, if you eat more then you expend, you will gain weight. whether it be fat or muscle, it will happen, it's physiologicoly impossible not to. if you're metabolism raises as you eat more, then beat it and eat more. besides, primo is a weak anabolic, and won't promote that much more gain then you are currently getting. don't expect an AS to solve all your problems. go for 6000 calories a day, if you can't make progress go to 7000, etc. be patient, 225-235 on your frame should be very easy naturally.


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IBUpRoFIN

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posted January 30, 2001 07:45 PM

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I have been lifting since i was almost 14 years old...also one more question is I think i might have a little more growing left in me and will this stunt it if i got on it? I mean i really don't care because a 6 foot 6 person is still a very large person but i am just wondering.


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posted January 30, 2001 07:50 PM

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the only scientific studies i've read of are that high levels in testosterone facilitate the sealing of growth plates. honestly, because primo isn't androgenic, you should be fine on it. i don't think you'd have any limits in your growth in height unless you got on an androgenic steroid, then it might be a possibility.


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posted January 30, 2001 07:54 PM

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I WOULD TRAIN NATURALLY FOR AT LEAST 1 MORE YEAR IF NOT LONGER. I AM STILL YOUNG, I'LL BE 19 IN A MONTH BUT I HAVE BEEN TRAINING SINCE AROUND 14 AS WELL AND I AM ON MY 3RD WEEK OF MY FIRST CYCLE. I WOULD HAVE STARTED WAY BEFORE NOW BUT THE GUYS TOLD ME TO WAIT AND TRAIN NATURALLY FOR A COUPLE MORE YEARS AND I AM GLAD I DID. IT IS YOUR CHOICE BUT THE ADVICE I WOULD GIVE YOU IS TO TRAIN HARD AND EAT HIGH PROTEIN,MOD CARBS AND MOD FAT. HOPE THIS HELPS A LITTLE

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posted January 30, 2001 08:01 PM

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yes, i'll back up mustang. these guys here never told me to wait, but i did anyway. til now, i'm 19, and i just started 2 weeks ago. you'll be happier if you wait. trust me. as far as i'm concerned, i don't think i'll do more than 2 cycles. the only thing i'll use them for is cutting because i've never had any problems gaining weight.


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IBUpRoFIN

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posted January 30, 2001 08:10 PM

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I understand what you guys are saying in telling me to wait....and i respect that but, you have to understand that if i wait untill i am 19 that will be too late. The most important year as far as college recruiting goes is junior year....and thats just next year. I mean sure senior year is just as important but you really need to be good as hell as a junior if you are planning on going anywhere good. So do you think it would be bad for me to go on some primo?


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posted January 30, 2001 08:42 PM

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bump


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posted January 30, 2001 09:18 PM

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Well brou should play it safe I mean your still developing, yet primo's not really that bad for you however if you were to do that. AND I AM NOT RECOMMENING YOU TOO. I would hit up some d-bol @ 25mg for 4 weeks and 250 mg of sus for 8 weeks. w/ the primo. Theres 30+ lbs.

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posted January 30, 2001 09:32 PM

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what do the rest of ya think about that?


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wanainpress

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posted January 30, 2001 09:35 PM

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30-dbol wk1 - wk4
500sust wk1 - wk8
400primo wk5 - wk9
this is what i am doing. i am at the beginning of week3 and i am up 12lbs. and i cut way down on my bodyfat. eat atleast twice your weight in protien. and some where around 40-60% carbs. get plenty of omega3, 6, and 9.


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posted January 30, 2001 09:43 PM

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Now your talking if your gonna do it do it right! You will be the biggest damn high school kid ever Good luck

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IBUpRoFIN

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posted January 30, 2001 10:07 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by Mass Monster:
Now your talking if your gonna do it do it right! You will be the biggest damn high school kid ever Good luck

Mass Monster


This is cool....I actually didn't think that these were the type of reply's i was going to get.
Wanainpress if i went on a cycle like that what would my side effects be? Would that possibly stunt my growth....like i said i am not too concerned about this but i just like to know.


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IBUpRoFIN

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posted January 30, 2001 11:07 PM

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what do any of you mods think about this?


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Swollen

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posted January 30, 2001 11:25 PM

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I have said this before to the young guys. If you want to know if you'll get stunted my a cycle, go get your knee x-rayed (your a starting ball player, shouldn't be hard to arrange). You and the doc will be able to see if there is any of your growth plates left, if so, there is a good possability you'll get stunted. If not, then your probably done growing anyway.

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IBUpRoFIN

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posted January 30, 2001 11:33 PM

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I actually did have my knee x-rayed 3 months ago ironically enough. I was having troubles with my knees....luckily there was nothing wrong. Anyways the dock told me i maybe have an inch or two left in my growth.


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browndog1

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posted January 30, 2001 11:34 PM

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do it. Play college, go pro. I'd go back and do it if I had the chance. Where are you being recruited to attend? That has a lot to do with it in my opinion. Maybe I'll change my response if you say Eastern North Dakota State University.
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quote:
Originally posted by browndog1:
do it. Play college, go pro. I'd go back and do it if I had the chance. Where are you being recruited to attend? That has a lot to do with it in my opinion. Maybe I'll change my response if you say Eastern North Dakota State University.
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...bd


Like i said i am only a sophmore so no where yet. My dad played ball for the University of Colorado. So the fact that he is alumni and I am in state i know i will have very good chances there. Plus my coach used to play with Rick Neuhesal or however you spell that so he told me if i work my ass off he will get my a scholorship there. I know he can too....cause in the last three years washington has signed 5 people from my school. So I know i got chances.


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posted January 31, 2001 12:13 AM

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I would do it too. If I had 25 more lbs in high school, I could have played major college ball. Damn, I wish I could go back.


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Yea bro looks like you are seeing some different points of views! consider them all I mean its a hard decision but if you are serious about college ball at a good school you might have to elevate to the next level. However there is a million ways to do it so reasearch and when you think your done then reasearch again you don't want to make any stupid mistakes!

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posted January 31, 2001 12:32 AM

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Damn, and people wonder why kids have low self esteems and do shit like this. You tell a kid to gain 30 pounds by next year or he's not playing, what the fuck do you expect?
Dude, I don't have much experience with AS that young, but hell, if you have a chance to go pro, friggin do it. You'll probably make more in a couple years of that than most of us will make in a lifetime.
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posted January 31, 2001 12:38 AM

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Chill out man I see where you coming from but AS aren't the end of the world in some cases they open doors !!!

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posted January 31, 2001 12:51 AM

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True true true

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stretch

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You're only 16. You have plenty of room to grow naturally. I wouldn't start taking any juice for a couple of more years. BUT...if there's no stopping you, then primobolan is definitely the way to go. It's very safe.


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quote:
Originally posted by wanainpress:
30-dbol wk1 - wk4
500sust wk1 - wk8
400primo wk5 - wk9
this is what i am doing. i am at the beginning of week3 and i am up 12lbs. and i cut way down on my bodyfat. eat atleast twice your weight in protien. and some where around 40-60% carbs. get plenty of omega3, 6, and 9.

I think dosages are too high for a 16 years old boy. He must use 50 mg primobolan every five days or so...
Sustanon and D-bol are too hard for his first cycle...he is just 16


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Alright so I think most of you agree that if you had the chance to do it over again you would do it. So my next question is what type of cyclce would you all suggest....I have looked into the one that wanainpress has suggested and most people are telling me that that would be way to strong of a stack for my first cycle at 16.....what do the rest of you think? If yes what would you suggest?


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Michael Gigante

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posted January 31, 2001 09:45 AM

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Even though you "should" wait - it sounds like your mind is made up. Stay away from the sust...you have enough test running through your body. Here's a mild recipe that will put on the pounds if you eat, train and sleep:

25-30mg Dbol a day - 4wks
200mg Primo a wk - 8 wks

The combo of the two will provide good results that you could actually keep.

Good luck.

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My friend, if you have already decided to do gear (and I am neither criticizing nor endorsing that decision,) then at the very least, DO IT RIGHT!

1. Choice of agents:

Sust (or Testosterone of any ester,) Dianabol, Bolderone (Eq) and even Deca are all able to convert, to varying degrees, to oestrogens. This will certainly cost you those two inches your doctor promissed you. The only way around it would be to take a full 1 mg/day of Arimidex along with the Testosterone (it wouldn't help vs. the Deca.) That would get very expensive, very quickly, though.

Primo, Winny, Oxandrolone and Trenbolone (off the top of my head -- there are probably others) will not stunt your growth because no conversion to oest. is possible with these agents.

2. Dosages

If you are going to do it (again, your decision, not mine,) use enough to get some serious gains out of it. Half-hearted, half-assed measures are perhaps the most irrational course of action you can take. You DO NOT want to take the least possible amount that will yield minimal gains... maybe; what you want to do is to take an amount that is almost certain to yield major results, while also being reasonably safe.
Given the above, my choice would be Primo at 600 mg/week and Winny at 60-80 mg/day (in three or four divided doses!)

Good luck.


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Your life, your choice, I am 6'8 and it took me 3 - 4 years to fully recognise my potential naturally and now I am turning to the dark side. LOL

If it were me, I would do it, I had a similar offer at rugby but tore my knee apart. If that didn't occur and I had been 250 - 260 by 19 - 20 ish I would have gone all the way.

If you are going to do it I would say winny and primo. I am far from an expert and that is just my 2 cents, others will no doubt disagree. But you will get solid gains that are mainly muscle, little water or fat retention (dependant on diet). As stated before your diet and sleep habbits are the biggest factor. You must eat protein like it is going out of fashion. I am a "hard gainer" and I had to eat till I almost puked to get the weight. Lots and lots of protein, good carbs - mainly brown rice, brown pasta etc and little fat. Use EFA's to keep tip top. If you are using winny and primo side effects should be minimal as I understand. You ust sleep atleast 8 hrs a day.

I am going down the sus and winny route but I am 23 and stopped growing.

You make YOUR choices and pay YOUR dues. In the end you have to live with the outcomes.

There are an awful lot over very knowledgable brothers who say wait. decide what you want and live with the outcomes. In the end you have live with yourself 24/7.

Yes or No - you decide. Then once you are sure get advice one way or the other the best way to proceed to achieve your goals.

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Although some may disagree, I really think you should NOT do them yet. At the age of 16, like it or not, you really don't know what you're really doing. You may think you do, but you really don't. The first 2-3 years of training you kind of float around. You really don't have a solid base in those few years. You may think "Yeah I'll only take 200mg of primo and then I'll be done". It almost never works that way. Especially at the age of 16. I reccomend 21 for the earliest anyone to start AS. I waited till 25 to start myself. Could have I started earlier? Yes, of course. But I am very glad I didn't. I had almost 8 years of natural training behind me. At 6'6" and only 200lbs you have alot more room for growing without AS....

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Where's that krazy 2Thick? DON'T DO IT. You have all the testesterone you need to grow right now. Just keep eating and training naturally. If you start now your bone growth will stop and you may miss out on hitting 6'8". AT 6'8" imagine all the recruiters that will be at your door. You are starting way too early.

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IBUpRoFIN

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ok i thought about it and i realized that i think you are right....I dont want to ruin my chances of getting to be 6 foot 8. however I did hear that a cycle of primo would not ruin those chances....so would a cycle of primo alone even be worth it?


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posted January 31, 2001 11:32 PM

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bump for any last thoughts


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Hey buddy, read what I wrote to burnboy. It all aplies to you. 16 is way to young. You will really screw up your chances to go far in sports if you permanently screw up your endocrine ssytem at 16. Even primo is angrogenic a little bit. If your dying to do the roids at least wait till 17 and 1/2. Thats the absolute youngest I would ever do it and I still absolutely do not recommend that you do. And that satuff you say about junior year being the year, well your wrong if you can play you can play, if it akes till sneior year, people will take notice. Ut might even take till freshmen year or sophmore year college to get noticed but evem then you can get recruited.


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If you really want to play it safe wait till 19.


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