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thor01

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posted January 30, 2001 03:17 PM

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I am 6' 180 lbs. This is my first cycle and I want to bulk. I have 10ml of ttokkyo deca 300mg and 100 tabs of loeffler ref-b 25mg.

Wk1 100mg deca, shots 2x/week
2 200mg deca
3 300mg deca
4 400mg deca
5 400mg deca; 12.5mg ref-b/day
6 400mg deca; 25mg
7 400mg deca; 25mg
8 300mg deca; 25mg
9 200mg deca; 25mg
10 100mg deca; 12.5mg

Do I need cut the ref-b tabs to take 1/4's at even intervals during the day?

I also have a box of clomiphene and a box of nolvadex. Wish I had bought two boxes of clomid instead. I don't think I have enough clomid to take it every day weeks 5-10 and I found after the fact that nolvadex won't do shit for gyno from deca. When should I cut in on the clomid if I only have 30 tabs? What is the strength of the shit from mexico? I was scared as hell thinking about crossing the TJ border and tossed the box before I double checked the mg's. At least I got the gear I wanted. It was easy; Elizabeth hooked me up.


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Corleone

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posted January 30, 2001 03:51 PM

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If I was you I'd take the dbol at the beginning of your cycle because it'll give you a nice boost and jump start you. Dbol is fast acting and will give you real quick results. I'm pretty sure the clomid you got is 50mg, is the brand name Omifin? You don't necessarily need to take the clomid during your cycle, you can take it after your cycle ends, take two pills a day for 7 days, one pill for the next seven days, and every other day take one pill, that'll difinetely get your natural test up, and 30 pills should be plenty for that. As for the Nolva, only take it if you feel the gyno coming on, you don't want to take it if you don't have to because it will lessen the effects of the AS's.
Good Luck

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thor01

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posted January 30, 2001 04:42 PM

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Omifin. That sounds familiar. I think thats the stuff. Like I said I tossed the box. I'll look at the foil and the pills themselves. I've been reading that the d-bol/ref-b is a real nut shrinker. I had the ref-b at the end so I could start the clomid immediately after I finished both the deca and ref-b. As advised I'm only doing 5-6 weeks of ref-b. If I start with the ref-b you are saying wait 5 weeks to take the clomid (after week 10 of the deca). Will that be too long after finishing the ref-b?


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Corleone

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posted January 30, 2001 05:02 PM

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In my opinion if you're still on the deca for weeks 6-10 you'll fine to hold off on the clomid til week ten. You're not going to lose any strength, because you'll still be on deca. What would everyone else recommend?

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DocJ

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posted January 30, 2001 05:40 PM

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This is what I'd do:

Deca
Week 1-6: 400mg
Week 7-8: 300mg

Dbol
Week 1-4: 25mg
Week 5-6: 12.5mg

Clomid
Week 10: 100mg/day
Week 11: 50mg/day

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thor01

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posted January 31, 2001 10:46 AM

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Thanks Corleone and DocJ. I will follow your advice.


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