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el cubano

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posted January 30, 2001 02:56 AM

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Are there any western union workers in here? If so, what happens to all the info given to transfer money? How long is it kept? Can police request the info from them or is it under the privacy act?

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Les

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posted January 30, 2001 03:00 AM

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this is a very good question, since I have been using my valid ID for transfers over a grand..it spooks me when they send these little 5 dollar off coupons to my house via mail..almost like they are saying.."ah-ha, we see every move you make"..mabe I should just lower the 2 grams of test Im on..HAHAHA


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The_Iron_Game

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posted January 30, 2001 03:59 AM

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Any information they hold on you, you can ask for a copy of all files relating to you. As for the cops getting access to it, it is possible but will take some time and effort on their part. Well that is the law over here anyways. Data Protection Act 1984 (dont know if you have it or the equivalent of it)

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Slopain

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posted January 30, 2001 11:41 AM

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I was hoping this was going to be a bashing of them, in my limitted experience with WU workers, they aren't too bright - and don't understand how WU works often.

Im sure they keep records, if for nothing more than just Marketing (explains: the coupon thing) but with that amount of money moving around it needs to be watched. But if the cops/feds/whatever are going to your local WU offices or collecting info on you - Id say chances are your alredy busted and they are just adding more evidence to an already substantial claim. Im not a doom-sayer I don't believe it happens too much if at all, just making a point.

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Dexter

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posted January 30, 2001 11:56 AM

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As usual, Slopain's comment' comments are, in my opinion, on the mark.

I think it must be a training issue. Why does it seem there is so little consistency in what should be (for the outrageous tariffs) a simple service?

They have all transactions on record, available for subpoena or informal government cooperation.

But could you get a record if you asked? I doubt it. Not without a ton of grief, at least. Unlike the U.S government, there is no Freedom of Information Act when applied to commercial business. Good luck trying.

I used the Freedom of Information Act, by the way, just to see what the government did during my Top Secret/Special Background Investigation (TS/SBI). You know, the retired elementary schoolteachers the Defense Investigative Agency talks to and whatnot.

The result: A bunch of papers, with most text covered by Magic Marker. Nothing substantial at all.

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zula

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posted January 30, 2001 12:01 PM

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Why would you use your real ID . You just make up one, you don't have to show them your real ID.


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Slopain

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posted January 30, 2001 12:22 PM

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zula, if the $ is over 1 grand you need an ID. One way around it, is to make several $900 WU's but as stated above it is a pain in the arse to get 1 WU never mind 4-5 or something. I guarentee you to make 5 WU transfers all info on both sides are correct - at least 2 of them will have some kind of mistake (commited by the employees) usually ending up in them asking for ID's even if its for like $50.

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Well in the U.S. it seems logical that if you make transactions of any kind for 1k or more then some sort of data would be kept on who you are. At least that can be said for banks. Uncle Sam can inquire about your accounts which hold some sort of money value. unless the laws have changed that can be assumed with banks and I would guess even WU to some extent would be held liable by them to do the same.

That is my primary reason I never want hire an acct, but rather a tax lawyer. I guess I'm one of those paranoid SOB's that doesn't like many people knowing what I have and where it's at.


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E2

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posted January 30, 2001 12:43 PM

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It's so simple, get a fake id made with some other name. They don't really check the vailidity of your id, they just want to see some piece of id, any decent fake will do.

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posted January 30, 2001 12:46 PM

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I'm not sure how WU operates, but banks have to keep their data processing records of your transactions for 7 years....

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posted January 30, 2001 01:21 PM

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They hold a transfer with the given control number for 45 days before they recycle the control number.

Sorry E2, but in Canada they ask for government ID. I have never been to one that would take anything besides a government issued ID with a pic.

Yes, I am sure the feds can look through their records. In fact, WU would probably volunteer the info.

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el cubano

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posted January 30, 2001 02:18 PM

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Hey Dex, they shortened it to just TSI now.

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Dexter

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posted January 30, 2001 02:27 PM

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Thanks, El Cubano. I've been out of the picture for awhile. Over 10 years. :)

Actually, it was Top Secret, Special Background Investigation, Sensitive Compartmentalized Information. (at that time, at least, TS/SBI/SCI). Glad to see government efficiency in shortening these tedious titles.

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el cubano

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posted January 30, 2001 02:28 PM

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I know what you mean about wishing this was about bashing the workers. Just today I had the lady asking me if she was doing it right????

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Slopain

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posted January 30, 2001 02:40 PM

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lol we need a 'scam squad' and a 'WU squad' employed by EF to go around and beat down these fools.

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posted January 30, 2001 03:12 PM

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2thick they may ask for a gov id, actually just a picture id will do, but i give them a canadian drivers license, and they're easily faked.

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posted January 30, 2001 03:15 PM

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You are correct, E2 (although your knowledge of fake IDs kinda make you wonder...LOL)

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