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 Did tyson do roids
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 71 |
Does anyone know if tyson did roids. He was pretty dam large by the time he was only 20, looked about 6 years older.     | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 315 |
No.His size is purely down to diet & gym work & genetics.There's a few heavyweihts out there that look like bb wannabe's though.Bruno,Evander etc.Compere their muscle quality to Tyson's. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 702 |
i've always wondered the same damn thing. i think it is just genetics | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 818 |
who knows?.....jesus! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 97 |
ask my anal cavity it would no as much as the iron ghost | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 402 |
Don't be so naive! Of course he juiced just like most pro athletes do. Shit, hope Tyson doesn't read this and find me! Holyfield hired Lee Haney to be his personal lifting trainer, what do you think they discussed, diet, rep schemes no maybe jab combinations? | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 705 |
i would venture to say so!!! ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 68 |
dude tyson didnt juice, he had a mental problem. he was insane. he had to take nerve pills all the time to calm his ass down, and when he faught he didnt take them thats why he was a maniac in the ring.. plain and simple..he was big but if he woulda done roids id imagine he woulda been wayy bigger ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 71 |
Im sure he juiced a little bit when he got onler. Especialy when he first got out of prison. But you who think its all jucie dont be stupid the guys got amazing genetics, a shitload of talent, and he worked his fuckin ass off every single day when he was younger. He would beat the crap out of any body builder out there. When I was wondering if he juiced I was talking about when he was like 18, 20 When he first became heavy weight champ. Im sure its a lot of genetics, but his face is enormous which makes me wonder if all those guys training him since he was 13 didn't give him a little something every now and then whe he first statred showing promise. He was never enormous or anything buit then again he did hours and hours of cardio everyday and wouldnt want to be that big. If you ask me when he was in his prime he was in one of the best shape of anyone. | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 32 |
Ofcourse he made everything to be best possible so why not juice ? | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 15 |
RECENTLY IT WAS IN THE NEWS THAT TYSON GOT SUSPENDED BECAUSE HE WOULD NOT SUBMIT A DRUG TEST, I BELIEVE HE GOT 3 MTHS... I ALSO HAD HEARD THAT IN THE EAR BITING DEAL HE WAS TAKING CHEQUE DROPS...IT WOULD SUCK TO BE THAT RICH.....NA...DO YOU GUYS THINK HE WOULD HAVE ANY PROBLEMS GETTIN GEAR??LATER... | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 315 |
So because you see a big guy(probably bigger than you),he has to juice right?Man,some of you need a shit load of lessons in genetics,i have to laugh at your naivity,bwwwwwwahahahahaha!!!! ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 71 |
Tyson was bigger and stronger than arnold at 19. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 71 |
that is when they were both 19 at later ages Arnokd got way stronger of course | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 18 |
DO monkeys like to lick their balls?? hhaha that made sense, yea Tyson juiced..what a dumb question. but at the same time he had a great foundation when he was young cuz he had great trainers and thats all he did, was FIGHT and LIFT! ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 315 |
Being bigger & stronger doesn't necessarily equate to muscle size.There are alot of big bb's out there who are relatively "weak",meaning they haven't had to lift big to get big,meaning great genetics. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 92 |
umm, maybe, but it was probably close. at 19 or 20, arnold had 20 inch arms. he was pretty big. tyson's arms were probably around 16. you think these guys are all big, but they ain't. holyfield has 16 inch arms, 44 inch chest, 7 inch wrist and 13 inch calves(!). it was in the paper when he fought lennox lewis. that ain't big. he was 215 at 6'2", i was that big in high school, without any gear of course. they just look bigger on tv. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 71 |
I dont know it might have just beeen genetics early on. I knew a kid in high school, a real short footbal guy, who never touched roids and by the time he was 18 was stronger, bigger, and more cut than many adults in their twenties and thirties who have done cycles and have been lifting for years. The only weird thing about Tyson was that his face was so enormous when he had just barelyt turned twenty. Maybea they gave him lots of GH. That would make more sense for boxing then test since it would help him recover from endurance training which is nescesary for boxing much more than anarobic weight training. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 71 |
Maybea at 19 or 20 arnnold had more hypertrophy on his biceps than Tyson did at that age but that is it. Regardless Tyson was much harder and dense looking. BY 21 however thats a different story. Im looking at the arnold book right now while I watch a documentary on Tyson and I can see these things. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 71 |
If you think you looked anything like HJolyfield does now while you were in high school you got severe problem. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 92 |
tyson was the man, no doubt about it. i say he was the best boxer ever, up until cus d'amato died, then he went to hell. i can't say, i haven't seen pics of tyson at that age in awhile. i don't doubt what you say, i'm 19, and i'm sure i could kick the shit out of arnold at my age. 6 foot 220, 7-9 percent bf. bench 405, squat 525, can do 40+ pullups(probably from wrestling), and shoulder press 315. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 315 |
I knew a guy at school years ago who at the age of 14 was carrying so much muscle it was scarey.He never touched a weight coz he was too busy smoking 30 cigarettes a day. There you have it.Genetics. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 92 |
DCS, you got an email, i'll send you a pic of me my junior year in high school | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 71 |
alright beefy im looking forward to seeing it. Did you juice in high school or not. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 71 |
I didnt get the email. WHere did you send it? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 92 |
DCS, what's your email? No, i started my first cycle 2 weeks ago. As i said the pic was 2 years 2and a half years ago. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 71 |
[email protected] | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 92 |
i has been sent, bout 205 in that pic at 6 foot. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 71 |
ya man I have to agree your pretty jacked there for only being a junior in high school at the time. WHat were you 17 or 18 there? Tyson your not but pretty dam good stuff their. What did you bench their? Your only 19 now? Yourlucky your blessed with good genetics and early introduytion to training | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 402 |
Genetics are a given in just about every pro sport at the top (I count talent in this category as well), it is just how it is. Hard work is also a given, and I would say doing chemical enhancement is almost as much as given as the first 2. With that said when you combine the 3 and the rewards that come with winning are you going to juice or not juice especially when all your opponents are? Yes Tyson was a mad man, most boxers are, do you think maybe his gear usage escalated that problem which would of been beneficial to him as a fighter. Stop making excuses, he did . And that takes nothing away from him because the playing field was even cause everyone else was also! This isn't the olympics in the 50's and 60's when Eastern bloc countries started dominating all strength sports and we had no idea why, this is now and they all now what's up. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 92 |
I got the school record as a senior with 375bench(325 clean and 505 squat too), i think i did around 350 there. and i was 16 actually, my birthday is in march. that was at the end of wrestling season. it was sort of a bad pic, lighting is bad and all. but i've leaned down since thin, and basically redistributed. i'm probably 15-20 pounds heavier in muscle, and 5 less fat or so. yes i wasn't a tyson, but at least i took 3rd in the country at 215 as a senior. i'll post new pics in about 8 weeks, and yall will shit your pants  . i plan to cut down for a nice summer 5 %bf. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 71 |
Good lucdk man you got my respect. | ||
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Freak 
Posts: 1590 |
I remeber when Tyson got out of prison, he lost like 60 lbs of fat and got completely ripped, and told everyone he has a "crazy metabolism" yea right, in my opinion he was on something, but who knows. I seriously doubt that Holyfield juices, I worked out next to him one time at a Worlds in Houston, he looks A LOT smaller in person, and all he did was light weight and many reps to tone. You don't need roids for that. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 71 |
Yah Tyson was crazy juiced when he got out of prison. How long ago you work out next to holyfiled? | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1079 |
Yes, Holyfield is a slender guy, but he definitely juiced. In his early to mid 20's he weighed 175 before moving to cruiser in his mid-20s (probably the greatest cruiser ever). Then he went to 210+ in the space of a few months, gaining mainly muscle. He was a slender guy who had maxed out naturally and then took the next step. As for Tyson, well, he had great genetics, but you're naive if you think he never juiced--it's a reality of the sport on that high a level. | ||
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Freak
Posts: 1590 |
DCS---it was a good 3 years ago, I think he was gearing up for Tyson/Holyfield part 2. On that day, he did legs, and from what others told me, he spent the majority of his workouts focusing on legs. ------------------ [This message has been edited by Natymike (edited January 30, 2001).] | ||
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Freak
Posts: 1590 |
Truth your probably right. and I also saw Jeff Bagwell working out and he too was not very impressive in person. TV adds many pounds my friends. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 118 |
Tyson isn't just a big guy. He is big & ripped, and in a very competitive sport that requires him to up his strength everytime. Of course he maybe genetically blessed, but it is without a single doubt that he is very very juiced. Iron Ghost's viewpoint that Tyson is entirely 100% drugfree is naive. A champion will take anything that will lead to success. Even a sprinter like Ben Johnson was juiced. What about a pro boxer who needs more power? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 278 |
I know he had to be on cheque drops and or halo. All that aggression. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 21 |
i have read his book and biography, as i am a huge fight fan, at age 13 he could bench 250 and yes he took juice, he was taking halotestin. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 95 |
Prison ifs full of guys that are as big and bigger than Mike. All the have to do is eat and lift. If he did juice it might explain why he has such a hard time controling his temper. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 144 |
I have heard the cheque drops may have contributed to the ear biting incident..Juicing probably, It's too bad he's a dumbass. He could have been the baddest mofo ever..... | ||
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Freak
Posts: 1937 |
I remember in the airport once..there was a huge black guy in a busniss suit..a women of about 50 approached him and said Ive seen you on TV..you play football..the man said..just cause Im big and black dosnet mean I play football..I was laughing so hard.....NEVER ASSUME | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 212 |
Most boxers that I know(which is about 5) don't lift for size. They just want to get a bit stronger without gaining weight that will slow them down. I doubt he did any heavy bulking cycles but possibly some winny or primo or anavar. Who know's for sure? we won't unless he admits it. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 515 |
Top 3 Gear Using Sports: 1. bodybuilding & powerlifting (duh) 2. boxing 3. football I'm guessing he took something... ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 21 |
If he juiced great if he didnt great all i know is that he is the KING OF THE RING. He as fists of stone and the heart of a dragon. Plus he meanest SOB's on the planet. If you look at him when he is in the ring he wants to hurt the person he is fighting. Not box he is there to cause pain and i love it. Keep training and stay tough | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
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Cheque drops for sure.... ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
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95% of all professional athletes take AAS. It is very simple. The media would like you to think that it's only a small percent, but if you know anyone who had been there it's obvious. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 268 |
Who knows???? He had the temper But his muscle quality was not like those of guys on steroids...unless he just did a mild cycle? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 287 |
Some of you people are so naive----The % of boxers who juice is higher then you can imagine-----Even down to the fly weights -they are taking some sort of performance drug---All heavyweights are taking or have taking something but not in the sense of just muscle building. And if they are not then they will not last very long. There were people in pro. ping-pong that tested positive for AS-----Tennis players--almost every olympic Ath. is using some sort of performance drug-----If you dont want to believe it, that is fine---But it exist and it always will. Dont be fooled by the size of a guys of girls muscles and think that they cant be using AS-----HGH is realy big with Pro. and Olympic Athletes. No Test for it. | ||
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Cool Novice
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I don't think tyson did. Wombat your just giving a opinion if he did prove it with some facts. The guy was just a genitically big friggin boy. I know many Africans who don't work out at all and are friggen big and ripped. Think about it(not to be racist) but when they were brought here they were looked at like, say, a farmer looks at cattle or horses. They looked for structure, muscle quality and a good gene line. Thats why a large percentage of blacks dominate sports. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 324 |
I don't know, look at his condition he had to have at least once or twice. Mass Monster | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 61 |
Dfaced got it perfect | ||
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Cool Novice
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Thanks Jayo To steak helmut, come on man you and I both know we'd have a temper like a mutha Fu@#a if we talked like him. I'd be one pissed off mug. | ||
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Guru 
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Did ALI, FRAZER, AND FORMAN take test? YES. It was comon place in many sports in the 60's and 70's from all the books I have read. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 194 |
Well, seems that everybody has a different opinion... Personally I think that most pros juice to keep up the pace... It happens everywhere... You see the guys are about 180 pounds in junior league and become 215 in 6 months.. Just my 2 cents Isn't it coincidence ? DS | ||
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Cool Novice
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I think Tyson's just lucky in the genetics department. Unfortunately for him, he wasn't so lucky in the brains department. Even if he had roids, I don't think he would know what to do with them. Oh, and Mr. Tyson... if you happen to read this, you can come look for me if you want to... I sleep with a 12 gauge by my bed. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 287 |
Dfaced--I dont walk in the guys shoes so I cant give you the facts you need. It doesnt take much to realize what goes on in sports----Your right he was a big guy naturally but what are your facts that he didnt-----I dont assume he did because of his size but because of what the trainers and coaches know about diff. types of drugs----these top athletes have top doctors at their disposal. Carl Lewis came out and blew the lid olympic level comp. when he tested pos. as did Dan Duchaine wrote about---These types of Athletes are in the same cat. Not to say there arent a few that are natural, but tyson was a methyl-test freak---prob. Halo too. Lee Haney was the top juice man at the time with Holyfield---Holyfield got alot of info, from mr. Haney--- | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 148 |
Some of this shit makes me laugh. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't but who will ever know? Hmm? As for Evander doing them, well I have my doubts seeing as he's the most moralistic, God-fearing boxer in history (please have a good look at his name). OK, one more thing - the whole "Tyson was nuts" theory, specially the bits about him being on anti-Ds and psycho meds and stopping them before a fight to make him meaner. Who do you think INVENTED those rumours? Don King and the Tyson band wagon. It makes money to have a psycho. If he really was on meds, do you think it would be public knowledge He's not crazy one little bit. When you see those wrestlers acting like complete goofs in the WCW/WWF - do you think they're all on anti-Ds and they're all psychos? It's a show people, just like boxing is ever since Don King took the reigns. It's all one big show and whoever draws the most attention, good or bad, makes the most money. So to sum up, he's not crazy, not a psycho, not this or that - you will never know what he is because the "Mike Tyson" we see is a media persona, not the real deal. IronMike | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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"As for Evander doing them, well I have my doubts seeing as he's the most moralistic, God-fearing boxer in history (please have a good look at his name)." HAHAHAHAHA!!! yea, so god fearing he had about 500 children out of wedlock. some of these guys could be genetic freaks you just don't know, but i'm sure they take something on the elite levels whether they truly need it or not. and like people have said the blacks do have an edge with genetics. my school was 90% white and the most ripped were all black, including a friend of mine who was about 4% year round naturally. small, but still 4% is impressive. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 228 |
In my view once you step into the pro arena then you have to keep up with your competitor (s). Or at least have an edge on them. Shit all you have to do is take a good look at most Olympians - especially females, they are easily spotted, by distinct features.- sprinters, gymnasts, swimmers. No for anything was the Chinese team disqualified or what about the German gymnast ? Christ even soccer players take roids. Most people equate roids with BB and power lifters and these are the same bunch that don't know much about them. You think Tyson, holyfield, Lennox never sauced ?? Shit...if that is how naive people are then I'll sell you a Brooklyn bridge stock | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 92 |
d1734, i agree, blacks do have a genetic edge in bbing in certain areas. the most prevalent being natural bodyfat levels. one reason for this is because of their african heritage, they needed a low bodyfat to keep cool in sub-saharan africa. as far as the propensity to put on muscle, i wouldn't agree with you. they looked jacked due to low bodyfat levels, not necessarily the amount of muscle. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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Will Smith is lifting alot in preparation to play Ali in some upcoming movie. I'm sure they had to put him on lots of juice...the guy is a friggin twig! | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 41 |
When Tyson was tested in a mental exam before he went into prison for the second time, he said he never took anything. That doesn't mean much, I know. But Tommy Morrison had admitted using steroids. His mother said in a interview that injecting steriods with "dirty" needles is how he managed to get himself infected with HIV. BTW, Tommy was 240 plus in his prime, he was 165 two and half years ago. He said he "lost it all" when he "went off juice". I'm sure having HIV had nothing to do with the loss in weight.... | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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i alwayz heard he used halostein before fights to increase his aggresiveness ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
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Wombat I don't have to give facts. If you re-read my statement, look at the first three words and that will tell you why. Anyways who really cares I say he was THE BEST EVER. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 450 |
I heared that Cheque drops were responsible (and culinary compliment) to the ear biting. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 176 |
boxers love their juice. even when i was boxing at a local club, the programs had you doing a hour's cardio every day, boxing 3 times a week (usually for more that two hours) and in the gym at least twice. try growing muscle doing that without putting something in your ass. a lot of the guys there (even those who didn't have a hope of going anywhere with it) were using AAS to keep up with the workouts and preserve what weight they had. i've heard several times about cheque drops being responsible for the ear incident...makes sense. they're still around. a lot of coaches still live in the Dark Ages, too. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 287 |
The fact that Evander is into god but is to moralistic to do juice ---Thats funny---Your kidding right?-----Most of the people sitting in prison long term --prob. are into god more then Evander but that still wont stop them from getting out and robbing you or me or killing people----I cant believe you brought religion into this-Bodybuilders are few and far between ---The majority of steriods are used in other sports---football -hockey --basketball--soccer--baseball(this sport elevated its game so much in the last 8 years and juice played a big part of it)Their are golf players that have been rumored to be juicing (david duval)His body made a major change in the last 2 years----Tiger---All of these people in all these sports are playing for amounts of money that you and I cant even comp.-----To think juice is a big deal is just plain naive! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 148 |
Fist Wombat, I didn't bring f@#king religion into this - you CANNOT bring up Holyfield without bringing up HIS religious stance. For the dummies - his parents called him "Evander" - look up an encyclopedia and see what it means. I'm sure I don't have to give you a history lesson on negro Baptist faith and the surname "Holyfield" do I? And no, I am not so naive as to think boxers don't juice - in fact most sports people do. Pllleassse. I only bothered responding to this stupid thread because 99.9% of the worlds morons actually swallow the Tyson bullshit with their mouths wide open - "oooh, he's a real monster". IronMike |
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posted January 30, 2001 12:30 AM
