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 HOW MUCH GH FOR FIRST CYCLE
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 183 |
I have never done GH before. I have done quite a few other steriods, but no exp. with GH. My question is how many IU's do I need for a good sized cycle. I am currently 230 lbs. at 6'1" and about 15 to 20% bf. Thanx in advance guys.     | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 456 |
most guys will say its not worth doing GH unless you use 4-6IU/day minimum for at least eight weeks. I'm interested to know myself. GH just seems terribly expensive to me. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 183 |
Bump!! Anyone else? | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 325 |
bump...i want to know too ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 896 |
$650 bucks for 126iu's isn't too bad i guess. I have been wondering the same question, because i was thinking of doing a cycle this summer and this winter to put on some solid mass and cut down on bodyfat. Ill bump it up. ------------------ EMAIL: [email protected] | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 261 |
I was wondering if any of you bros could answer a ??????? for me? How old, in your opinion, should an iron bro be before he runs a gh cycle? ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1408 |
1 kit will give you enough for 2ius for 12 weeks. I wouldnt do anything less than that. You need gh for extended peroids of time for decent results. $650 is a fair price. Advice... there are a lot of fake kits going around. Buy a preg test and with your first point squirt a little on the test, if its positive you got HCG which is not HGH. ------------------ "Catch a man a fish, he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish, and he eats for a lifetime." | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 896 |
Lawnsaver, that was interesting about the preg test. So you don't think that 2iu's is too low a dosage to go with? For starters? I was thinking maybe around 4 iu's per day, but maybe that is too much for a first timer doing GH. And i have heard different things on adding slin into the mix. Some say it works wonders with GH, and some say its a waste. I would think it would be great doing the 2 together, but im not too educated on them as of yet, and need to do more research before i start doing this. Thats why im waiting until summertime. Anymore info on this guys? ------------------ EMAIL: [email protected] | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 41 |
shit must be some rich boys in here . i sure can't afford that , i have to save up for 3 months to be able to afford a 12 week cycle . | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1408 |
Hardcore, if you are only doing 2ius the slin is a must. I would do it with any amount. You need 500mg of test a week, 10 to 15ius of slin and 25mcg to 50mcg of t3. That the pro stack. With diet, you have to be on a SEEFOOD diet. Eat everything, your metabolism we be ready for anything! Ps: I took 2ius a day and it was AWSOME!! ------------------ "Catch a man a fish, he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish, and he eats for a lifetime." | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 142 |
im also planning on doing my first hgh cycle but at a higher dose.im thinking 6iu four days a week along with 10iu slin and 25mcg of cytomel for 4 months.of course ill be doing a cycle along with it | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 896 |
So, Lawnsaver, you took 2iu's for how long? And you did your slin after every workout, or every day? And the T3, you pyramided up and then back down. How long did you stay on that? I was thinking of maybe doing GH, test, Slin, & T3 for about 12 weeks. What do you think? See, my metabolism is fairly fast. Right now, im about 202, and bodyfat has gone down to 9%, so i think its from the winny & clen im doing with my deca and test. I wonder if 2iu's would be sufficient for me? I dont want to be godzilla, just be about 210 shredded with 5-6% bodyfat. ------------------ EMAIL: [email protected] | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 896 |
Bump for Lawnsaver ------------------ EMAIL: [email protected] | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 991 |
I have yet to try it (cuz of $$$) but my research tells me that the minimun is 4iu/day for 3 months doing it 5 days on/2 off throughout..I was told by a gh user that I wouldn't see much from that dose and that I should use 6-8iu's daily as a minimum..stacked with gear of course. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 21 |
i have done serostim gh and took a bottle (18ius)every three days with 4 days off. i also kept my anodrens high and took 10 iu isulin twice daily. i wouldnt pay more than 450 for a kit. unless u are gonna do like 2 or three. forget it. stick with the gear, especially if finances are a concern. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 896 |
Krusher....thats what i like to hear. Different opinions. Thanks man, and ask your "friend" if he thinks that even 2-4 iu's is just a waste or what, and what kind of results would you think one would gain? Even for a fairly small, 200 pound guy with a high metabolism. ? Thanks. ------------------ EMAIL: [email protected] | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1408 |
Ofcource 4 to 6ius would be better, but for your first cycle 2ius with everything else you will be amazed. I took it for 12 weeks with test and t3 only. I didnt know how to get slin at that time. I gained 12lbs and lost 6% BF. I couldnt believe it. The insulin will make all the difference since you have a high metabolism. You wont be disappointed. ------------------ "Catch a man a fish, he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish, and he eats for a lifetime." | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 896 |
Lawnsaver, i just don't know. Im so skeptical about using slin. I know i will research more before i go sticking myself in the stomach with it, but for some reason, the negative effects are outweighing the positives. I'm a cautious person, and i do not want to put myself in any great danger using this shit. If there are certain ways to go about using it, then yes, i may reconsider, but for now, ill be sticking with GH, Test, T3, and maybe some EQ. ------------------ EMAIL: [email protected] | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 991 |
Hardcore..I told my "friend" that I planned on doing 4iu's daily 5 days on/2 off and he told me it would be pointless..he said I wouldn't see much on top of what I'd get from my gear stack..he said to wait until I can afford atleast 6iu's daily..I'm taking his word cuz he speaks from experience, he just doesn't want me to be dissapointed. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 189 |
bullshit!i know 2 (almost pro) bb's and they only take 4iu and swear by it!it is true that you need to stay on it a while though. i just started sunday at 4iu's (2 twice a day)and will reamin on it until june or july.if you are not taking slin and yes you need to take it with a decent cycle for best results! my buddy has been on it for over a yr and his fingers are quite huge but thats it so far!but then again he is 5'10 285 and competes at 245! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 183 |
Jdabull is that 4 iu 7 days a week? | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1408 |
You are not supposed to take gh 7 days a week. You need to mirror your natural secretion. 5 on 2 off or 6 on 1 off. I can only say how it worked for me. I got great results without slin. I dont sell gh so I dont benifit from you taking it. At 2 ius a day it transformed my body, that the bottom line with me. I cant make you do it. I can say if you spend half the money you can get gear to give you better results. ------------------ "Catch a man a fish, he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish, and he eats for a lifetime." | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 991 |
.if you are not taking slin and yes you need to take it with a decent cycle for best results! JDA..what are you saying about the slin..that [This message has been edited by Krusher (edited January 30, 2001).] | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 21 |
insulin has a synergestic effect with gh and high anodrens. i have done it with and without insulin. and believe me u need the slin. it shuttles all these hormones to the muscle cells. i have researched the shit out of this cycle(test/orals/slin/gh.)personally i would want optimal enviroment for growth. as far as cycles i think it is one of the most effective. just my opinion | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 183 |
Thank you everyone! I appreciate all your help! Now I just gotta start saving.lol | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 21 |
insulin has a synergestic effect with gh and high anodrens. i have done it with and without insulin. and believe me u need the slin. it shuttles all these hormones to the muscle cells. i have researched the shit out of this cycle(test/orals/slin/gh.)personally i would want optimal enviroment for growth. as far as cycles i think it is one of the most effective. just my opinion | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 896 |
Lawnsaver, if you got great results that "transformed" your body with only 2iu's of GH per day, and even with no slin, this this is what i will start with. I may do 4 weeks at 2iu's and then up the dosage to 4iu's for the remainder of my cycle. I know that you need to do it for a minimum of 12 weeks, but i plan on doing it for around 16-20. I just don't want to risk the slin, and hey, if that means i won't gain another 10 pounds then fuck it. My life is worth more then that.  Slin is too scary for me.....ill have to grow bigger balls.------------------ EMAIL: [email protected] | ||
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Novice 
Posts: 10 |
after what lawnsaver had said to me when I asked for help on my first gh run,I have 252 iu's of gh. I plan on doing 3 iu's 5 on 2 off,and 10iu's of slin after my work out in the morning.I will also be taking 50 mcgs of t-3 500 mgs of eq a weekfor the first 12 weeks 600mgs of enanthate a week for the first 8 weeks. I will be using the gh for 16 weeks, my question is what can I use for filler to the end? ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 896 |
Good cycle, cannons. Looks like you have it all set, bro. Good luck!AND....i was wondering what everyones personal preference of GH was? Serostim, etc. What brand would you prefer, and why? Also, doesn't GH need to be kept refrigerated, or is it just certain types? ------------------ EMAIL: [email protected] | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 441 |
hey you guys that say slin is a must, im not scared of taking it but would slin be good for a contest prep diet because of the low/no sugar and should you be using the t3 the entire time your on gh i will be doing it for 16weeks at 8iu/day 6on 1off i have 7 kits along with plenty of gear and anti e's etc.please let me know as i want to get the most out of this so i can blow away the competiton | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 189 |
i would suggest doing gh the first time without the slin nd if you aren't satisfied after 12-16 wks then add the the slin and yes do 5 0n 2 off at 4 iu's a day 2 in morning and 2 before bed. if you are not a competetive bb then don't bother with the slin!curretnly i am on a bombs, test e, eq, and gh and just started sun. if you would ike to follow my progress let me know! | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 17 |
this may be a stupid question but do you still need to treat slin just as you would if you weren't on GH? what i mean is, all of the precautions one would take to prevent going hypoglycemic would still need to be taken correct? | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 23 |
How much GH should I expect to get for 800 dollars? I can get a cycle for 800 but am going to find out how many IU's this cycle contains. I now know how to take it but I don't knwo how much $$ it would cost for the slin. How much is slin? Another thing guys...What is Ox? Someone said this would keep my growth-plates from sealing if goin on some gear...what does this stuff cost.. [email protected] Thanks guys! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 183 |
I'm sure that is for 126 iu's. a little steep | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 896 |
Im with Jdabull, too. I will not be using slin the first time i do GH. Im gonna stick with GH, test, EQ, & maybe some Anadrol, now that you said that. I still don't have it critiqued and fine tuned yet, but i have a while to work on it. Also, after you do a long good cycle of GH, say for 4-5 months, what is a proper time to be "off" before you go back on another cycle of GH? Thanks. I was planning on maybe doing one in May, June, July & August, and maybe November, Dec, and January. ------------------ EMAIL: [email protected] | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1408 |
Hardcore, stay away from anadrol. The stack you have will be more than satifying. I would do insulin any day over anadrol. That stuff is scary strong!!! ------------------ "Catch a man a fish, he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish, and he eats for a lifetime." | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 189 |
hey hardcore stay with the a bombs the first time and just wait fpr the slin- if you were to start the slin right off you will never know if ya would of been alright with out!and remember the longer your on the gh the more permanent sides you will see- like i said i know some fellas that been on well over a yr and he has very large hands and fingers but that's it.it all depends how far you want to take the game! | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 21 |
AS FAR AS SLIN GOES. EXCEPT HYPOGLYCEMIA WHICH IS AVOIDABLE, IT IS PRETTY SAFE TO TAKE. YOU NEED START ON A DOSE THAT IS PRETTY LOW. DEPENDING ON YOUR BODYWIEGHT. INCREASE IT EVER SO SLOWLY TILL U STILL FEEL GOOD. I KNOW ANYTHING OVER 12-15 I WILL GO INTO A HYPOGLYCEMIC STATE. IF THAT DOES HAPPEN AND U WILL KNOW(SWEATING, DIZZY, ETC.)EAT SIMPLE SUGARS OR RUB HONEY ON THE GUMS IS A TRICK I HEARD TO DO. CANDY, JUICE, OR GLUCOSE TABS DOES THE TRICK. IT IS A DRUG THAT I DO NOT RECCOMEND TAKING GH OR SLIN FOR SOMEONE WHO DOESNT KNOW THE SCIENCE BEHIND IT. I HAVE EXPERIENCED SIDES FROM HIGH GH . MY HANDS WOULD GO NUMB AND TINGLE. IT IS A COMMON SIDE FROM GH. OTHER THAN THAT WHO KNOWS? UNLIKE AS THERE IS NOT MUCH LONG TERM STUDIES ON IT. A DOCTOR WOULD NOT ADMINISTER A DRUG WITH OUT KNOWING HOW MUCH TO GIVE. AND UNLESS U R SURE ABOUT HOW TO USE IT (GH,SLIN) DONT ..U TAKE TOO MUCH AND U GOT PROBLEMS. HYPOGLYCEMIA AINT COOL. AND BEING UR BRAIN RUNS ON GLUCOSE, LEVELS DROP TO LOW U WILL GO INTO A COMA. IT ALSO HELPS TO TELL SOMEONE U ARE ON IT IN CASE U DO GO INTO A COMA THE DOCS KNOW WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON. BE SAFE BROTHERS! |
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posted January 29, 2001 08:22 PM