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youngsust

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From:Graham, Tx, United States
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posted January 29, 2001 09:16 AM

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Hey bro's....long time no see. Quick question. I used to buy cases of Verve from a dude but can't find it or any alternatives anymore. Also used to get GHB about $5 per oz. Is Solar water a good alternative or does anyone know of a better alternative that I could use. Would like the real GHB but **HARD TO FIND**. Any advice? No smartass replies from those of you who are inmature thank you. Only want a pro's advice.


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Les

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posted January 29, 2001 09:20 AM

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butandiol, great sub..just dont take 9mls like me or youll feel like you had 30 beers and puke your guts out..contact animal

contact me at my address if you need his addy, be more thsn happy to help


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Puc

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posted January 29, 2001 09:40 AM

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find an overseas gbl source. 1,4 BD is hard on the LIVER and KIDNEYS and if you juice you don't need anything else damaging them...

gbl can be converted to ghb with some sodium hydroxide which is available over the counter at photography stores...

do not buy anything which lists dipenhydramine hcl as an ingredient. Most new replacements use it. that is UNISOM....

Puc

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youngsust

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posted January 29, 2001 09:45 AM

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Thank you for the much needed usefull advice Puc. **Appreciated**


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1Mistake

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posted January 29, 2001 10:50 AM

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For the last time,1,4 is NOT hard on the liver or kidneys!!!

J


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youngsust

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posted January 29, 2001 01:20 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by 1Mistake:
For the last time,1,4 is NOT hard on the liver or kidneys!!!

J


I did not think it was....That's why I took it instead of drinking alchohol.


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big_guy1

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posted January 29, 2001 03:49 PM

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1,4 is a good replacement..not sure if it is hard or not on the liver, I didn't beleive it was, although, from what I recall, it is processed as an alcohol by the body...

big-guy


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jonnyp

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posted January 29, 2001 03:55 PM

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where can I get this 1,4 stuff?


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Pimp C

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posted January 29, 2001 06:39 PM

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I used BDO 3-4x a day for 5 months and just got a blood test done due to my high b.p. My liver enzymes were slightly elevated (Probably from beer, I used to drink heavily before the BDO, I have also used 17aa) My kidneys were great and so was my cholesterol.
(B.P. is down too thanks to the meds I'm taking for it)


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Francis Drake

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posted January 29, 2001 06:54 PM

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what about the withdrawl from 1,4 BD when you stop using it? is it the same withdrawl you get with GHB?


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Fonz

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posted January 30, 2001 03:29 PM

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For the last time, 1,4 butanediol has no effect
on the kidneys or liver dammit!. The reason alcohol
affects the liver is because it breaks down
to ethanol, and there are only a limited amount
of enzymes in the liver to process the ethanol.
So, past a certain amount of ethanol, the liver
begins to get damaged. 1,4 butanediol breaks
down into Carbon dioxide(CO2) and water(H2O),
so, please tell me how these two substances would
affect the liver(or kidney's for that mater)? The
answer is they wouldn't!!

Godspeed


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youngsust

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posted January 30, 2001 07:00 PM

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HELL YEAH!!! Thanks for clearing that up with all the durhhh's in here!

quote:
Originally posted by Fonz:
For the last time, 1,4 butanediol has no effect
on the kidneys or liver dammit!. The reason alcohol
affects the liver is because it breaks down
to ethanol, and there are only a limited amount
of enzymes in the liver to process the ethanol.
So, past a certain amount of ethanol, the liver
begins to get damaged. 1,4 butanediol breaks
down into Carbon dioxide(CO2) and water(H2O),
so, please tell me how these two substances would
affect the liver(or kidney's for that mater)? The
answer is they wouldn't!!

Godspeed



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Ryan Tripp

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posted January 30, 2001 07:09 PM

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No shit, if you're not a fucking idiot, GHB or any of the precursors are great for getting sleep and partying. I'm in college and taking 18 hours a semester, not to mention I work 35 hours a week. All I can get is 4-5 hours a night, so the shit is my best friend. Hey youngsust where in Tx is Graham? I'm in Houston. Tripp

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1Mistake

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posted January 30, 2001 09:16 PM

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Thank you Fonz!!!!


J


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EXTREME4LIFE

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posted January 31, 2001 12:42 AM

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Domestic source for GBL, GHB kits, 1,4 Butanediol. have refs. e-mail THE [email protected] for price list/ordering instructions.

T.E.


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