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skippy

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posted January 29, 2001 08:45 AM

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I'm thinking of doing a 6 week cycle of 1000mgs test and 500 mgs. EQ. I know the test will be OK, but will I be on EQ long enough to see results from it?
I have heard a few respected individuals say the never cycle for more than 6 weeks. So I thought I may try it.
P.S. 30 mgs. D-bol will be in it for at least four weeks also....Thanks

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Les

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posted January 29, 2001 08:47 AM

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go to 150mg EOD of the eq. works for me..maybe even go 8 weeks on the eq.


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skippy

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posted January 29, 2001 10:01 AM

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Anyone prefer short cycles?
Also I will be using Tttokyo Boldenon 200, so is it still neccessary to spread the shots out over the week?


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The Shadow

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posted January 29, 2001 10:30 AM

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Skippy - I love short cycles, but 6 weeks does not a short cycle make.


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skippy

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posted January 29, 2001 10:37 AM

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What would you call a short cycle? I just thought it would be good, to minimize nut shrinkage, etc. and less time to wait in between cycles. I don't know I'm just asking for opinions.....I'll probably end up doing between 8-10 week cycle anyway.


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The Shadow

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posted January 29, 2001 10:41 AM

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To minimize things such as nut shrinkage, etc. cycles should be limited to no more that 15 days. You then take 2-3 weeks off and repeat using different compounds. You do 4 cycles with 2-3 weeks off between each, and you then take 8-12 weeks off and begin again.


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skippy

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posted January 29, 2001 10:47 AM

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interesting..If you don't mind Shadow, how bout posting a sample 4 course short cycle/cycles. I've got test cyp, d-bol, EQ, Sust, Primo to build with, but I'd like to see a sample of one, or tell me where to find info on short cycles.....Thanks


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skippy

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posted January 29, 2001 11:59 AM

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ANYBODY KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THESE SHORT TWO WEEKS CYCLES?????


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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted January 29, 2001 12:11 PM

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Hi skippy.Here's an old post of mine that should shed some more light on the subject for you buddy...I see a lot of misconceptions of what constitutes a"short cycle"going on lately.I constantly hear so and so talk about"Yeah,I'm planning on doing a short cycle that will consist of four weeks of test".This is missing the whole benificial strategem behind this newer"fad"type of cycling,and I'll explain why that is--2 WEEKS is the maximum one should be"on",for the following reasons:In the first two weeks of high androgen levels,pituitary response to Leutenizing-Hormone-Releasing-Hormone(LHRH)not only does not decrease,it actually IMPROVES(Which basically means your pituitary is sensitized,and therefore leutinizing hormone output is increased,which is obviously quite benificial).BUT-AFTER THE 2 WEEK POINT:The pituitary rapidly becomes unresponsive to L-H-R-H.Thus,both the Hypothalamus(which produces L-H-R-H)and the Pituitary(which produces Leutenizing Hormone)are now in a state of inhibition,and must ride out a longer recovery process.The moral here is,from a SUPPRESSIONAL standpoint--You guys that are stretching your cycles out past the two week point might as well just do the standard 8 week cycles,since full inhibition has already occurred.If kept to 14 days and under,recovery is almost immediate,as only the hypothalamus has to recover,not the pituitary.Here's some helpful hints for staying within the time frame,thus reaping the benifits behind this particular method of cycle:Stick to orals and injectibles with short acting esters.Any of the orals are acceptable as they all have fast clearance times out of the body.Suitable injectibles include:Suspensions(Aqueous,Winstrol)acetates,propionates,and phenylpropionates.Hope this clears up some of the misconceptions and helps any of you fellas thinking about experimenting with this method in the future.---Huck


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PerfectRep

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posted January 29, 2001 12:14 PM

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Personally, I've seen and heard a lot of guys doing well on 6 week cycles(myself included). I like the way you've got it right now.

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PerfectRep

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posted January 29, 2001 12:18 PM

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You've also got to remember, depending on what test you use, that you'll still have the test in your system longer than 6 weeks.


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MeanOne

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posted January 29, 2001 12:29 PM

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I personally beleive in short cycles over long cycles for keeping gains. Skippy, if you have my website address, you can find the results of one persons short cycling there...very successful. I however, do not often rotate compounds like that. The primary drugs in my short cycles are -Fina, A50, Prop., Enan., Dbol, and Winstrol. Not all at once, just 3 or 4 at a time. If you do a search for the topic "MeanOne a ?..." you will find I posted an example of my next short cycle.


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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted January 29, 2001 12:50 PM

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You mean the lethal one?


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