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ULTRAMAN

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posted January 29, 2001 08:34 AM

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IS THERE SUCH A THING OR IS ALL THOSE SUPPLEMENTS GARBAGE?


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anabolic24/7

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posted January 29, 2001 08:39 AM

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Celltech,Nitrotech, hehe.
Food will give you better results than any commercial supplement. Creatine does some good, IMO.


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havoc

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posted January 29, 2001 08:41 AM

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Cybergenics and St.Johns Wort, oh my the results are outstanding.

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Les

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posted January 29, 2001 08:42 AM

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none. you must be joking. you come to an anabolic board to ask that?...


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whodaman

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posted January 29, 2001 08:43 AM

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I agree with anabolic (most of that shit is garbage)...although creatine is very helpful both on and off cycle......hmmmm legal suppliments Fina maybe


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CPA

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posted January 29, 2001 09:22 AM

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i agree with everyone else. i've tried just about everything know to man in a desperate attempt just to achieve some moderate gains. after a few grand down the drain, i got smart, stopped wasting my money, and found this site.cpa.


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plifter

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posted January 29, 2001 09:48 AM

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you doubters obviously haven't tried Bee Pollen, that's some potent stuff, don't forget about shark cartilage either


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Black Hawk

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posted January 29, 2001 09:55 AM

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HEY BRO, DON'T WAST UR MONEY ON THE SHIT U SEE IN THE GNC. THE ONLY THING I HAVE FOUND THAT WORKS IN THAT STORE IS CREATINE. THE NEXT BEST THING IS SOME KIND OF MEAL REPLACEMENT DRINK. I TAKE ISOPURE IT HAS ALOT OF PROTEIN AND OTHER SHIT THAT WILL HELP U GROW.


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xrciseink

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posted January 29, 2001 10:09 AM

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Due to the fact that 90% of the supplements on the market are bogus, no one feels that there are any alternative ways to get results. This is wrong. The first thing you need to realize is that a physique does not come all from a bottle. However there are products that will help you "somewhat." It's true that the prohormones are very weak as far as muscle growth, but this is only the case when they are taken orally. Topical prohormones do have some "kick" to them, but the problem seen often is the estrogenic side effects. "Topicals" are a new way to get around the injectable laws. Provided the bottle says it is not for anything but topical use it can be sold. know ingredients and what to look for. 19Norandro in suspension form is very potent. It still will not give you gains comparable to illegal steroids, but as far as OTC goes, that is about as potent as it gets. 1/4cc 3-5X a day is the dose to achieve good results with these. Gyno will occur when this stuff is injected so use arimidex or an antiestrogen like clomid or nolvadex. It is a must. Another topical supplement is Synthol or Pump and pose. This product is becoming more and more popular for "fake" development. Unfortunately many people are very desperate for any kind of growth, even if it looks like crap. There are a couple of other LOOP HOLES going on for growth too. Personally I feel that these new supplements are crap and will probably cause more harm than good, but that is not my decision to make for you. I choose not to touch these due to the fact I don't feel comfortable with them and have seen the gyno caused by the prohormones and the look that pumpnpose or synthol provides. Train hard and consisitant because that is what is going to get you the results in the long run...you asked about OTC supplements...there you go. Train hard.

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Iron Ghost

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posted January 29, 2001 10:23 AM

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Creatine,depending on the individual.

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G-Man

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posted January 29, 2001 12:41 PM

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For Size use Creatine (Sports Pharma) and Cyto Vol by (EAS) and for strength use a couple of Ripped Fuel!!

G-Man


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lawnsaver

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posted January 29, 2001 12:54 PM

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Are we forgetting that insulin is legal otc?
I have trying 1 product that works, Methoxygen from vpx sports worked awsome for me. I took it for 4 weeks and gained 5 lbs and gained about 10lbs on my bench. Vpx's delivery process is very good. I have tried creatine with little results, glutamine works well for me at high doses

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JohnyJuice

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posted January 29, 2001 04:24 PM

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finaplix. 'nuff said


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Corleone

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posted January 29, 2001 04:45 PM

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Creatine with Glutamine is an ok combo, probably the best legal one, but nothing compared to the real thing.


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Zeacky

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posted January 29, 2001 04:58 PM

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Humalog


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riskybiz007

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posted January 29, 2001 05:04 PM

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creatine for some weight
19nors for strength
that's it.


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HappyScrappy

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posted January 29, 2001 05:37 PM

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water.

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TwinGATs

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posted January 29, 2001 05:54 PM

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protein, creatine, and eca for strength


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Curious George

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posted January 29, 2001 06:03 PM

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Flax seed oil. People just don't take in enough Fats in the diet. Test is actually a cholesterol which is also a fat.


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b fold the truth

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posted January 29, 2001 06:12 PM

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Creatine, eca, insulin, fina.

B True


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quenepo

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posted January 29, 2001 06:17 PM

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A friend of the gim use the combo of muscle tech,work for him but is very expensive to be legal.

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BigMack

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posted January 29, 2001 06:43 PM

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Hi everyone Im a new member,
As for the question I have had some pretty good results using Creatine, and Glutamine. Make sure you start to use more salt when you eat. Sodium is the carrier of both Creating and Glutamine. Make sure you dont use the two within 2.5 hours of eachother, otherwise you wont get complete absorbtion. Dont worry about your sodium intake, most of that hype is all bullshit that the media started. Sodium does not cause hypertension, but can aggrevate it if you already have it.


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thefacelessballer

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posted January 29, 2001 09:58 PM

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food, is the best ever suppliment

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Natymike

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posted January 29, 2001 11:12 PM

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I put on about 15lbs a year with creatine and a good diet.

creatine and glutamine DO help with natural gains, for someone to say nothing works is kidding themselves, of course celltech and shit like that is bullshit, but creatine and glutamine do work, just don't expect to see drastic gains.

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jeep

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posted January 29, 2001 11:20 PM

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mass amounts of protein and you will be just fine.

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mb2001

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posted January 29, 2001 11:29 PM

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eas is a joke bill philips is a scam artist if you ask me. Body for life my butt muscle tech blows too I'm so sick of their 10 page add's whoever has read those has wasted a lot of time. Obviously creatine glutamine, protein, maybe some pro hormone's. I've seen lables like equibolen, maxabol, etc. All obviously trying to soundl like the real thing. If you're scared of juice shop carefully you can find some good deals on pro hormones but not from eas or muscle tech. Along with eca stacks, diet, protein protein protein you can get large.

But don't forget Celltech is 1500 percent better then regular creatine, or wait is it 1950 percent better LOL. It's funny when schwarts lab's is half the price and they both come out of the same factory that's how it goes though

What about Ribose anyone use that I heard it's suppose to be ok?

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cisstud

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posted January 29, 2001 11:36 PM

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On the topic of OTC supplements has anyone ever tried ciwujia (Endurox) as a lactic acid buffer and what was the result during anaerobic exercise?

Thanks


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MeaNFReaK666

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posted January 29, 2001 11:37 PM

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Finaplix, Creatine, glutamine, GABA, eca stack all u need to get started


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ItalianSweetness

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posted January 30, 2001 12:56 AM

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everyone loves to knock supplements. They are expensive and they DO WORK. ------------------>protien, creatine, glutamine, tribulus, zinc and magnesium, and amino acids in that order. Take these supps together and eat a whole lot throughout the day. The results will be tremendous if u do it right.

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micke

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posted January 30, 2001 10:49 AM

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try some anadrol its the most naturel i got he he..lol

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RoNiN

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posted January 30, 2001 11:59 AM

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Creatine with Liopic acid and dextrose.....
Glutimine and whey protien


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mike001

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posted January 30, 2001 01:13 PM

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fina!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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pajaro loco

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posted January 30, 2001 06:30 PM

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I would recommend a combination of 3 products:
1.- The Animal Stack(Universal)
2.- L.A.V.A.(Universal)
3.- Designer protein or Myoplex(E.A.S.)


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