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 NEED SOME IN DEPTH INFO ON FIRST CYCLE, ALL ADVICE IS APPRECIATED
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Cool Novice 
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I weigh 205 pounds and am 5'9 .I have been training for 5 years. I have a bodyfat around 14%. I was going to do a mass cycle with some sust and some deca . But i have heard alot about EQ being better than deca. i was also going to do some clenbuterol for about 3 weeks first to shed some bodyfat before i do the mass cycle. I want to get around 225 with a firm muscular look. Is this possible with my first cycle? What would u guys tell me to do to reach my goal in terms of A good stack with time , dosages, and other helpful info? Thanks,     | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 569 |
well bro eat and train good to get good gainz and deca puts on more weight then eq but eq and sus is a great choice it well give you more cuts.like 500mgs of sus and 300mgs of eq.later ------------------ [This message has been edited by ultragainz (edited January 28, 2001).] | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 17 |
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Cool Novice
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Cool Novice
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Does deca do more harm than good by holding lots of water? Does the EQ make u firmer bc of less water retention or what?Which should go with sust and clen. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 54 |
Bobby, alotr of guys like deca alot but I don't cause it has progesterone activity. Thsi makes you hold water and an antiestrogen wont prevent this. Eq is not progesterenic but it aromatizes to estradiol so it will cause water problems too but these can be handled by antiestrogen. How long where you thinking of making the cycle? | ||
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Freak 
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Personally it seems like you have done a little research, thats a good place to start. If you are noth bothered too much about water retention then go with the deca and sustanon. What doses are you planning on using? I think what you are aiming for is completely possible. 20lbs should be achieved quite easily. How about 500mgs of sust for 8 wks and deca at 300-400mgs/wk for 8 wks as well. Use proviron/nolvae to keep the water down from the sust. If you are bothered about water from deca then use eq instead at about the same 300-400mgs/wk. If you are to reach 20lbs increase then you must increase protein intake as well as calorie intake. Peace ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 17 |
I HAVE DONE MUCH RESEARCH.I WANT TO DO AT LEAST 50-60 DAYS FOR THIS CYCLE. DOING A SHOT OF SUST/DECA OR SUST/EQ EVERY 4-5 DAYS. BUT WOULD I GET THE 20-25LBS WITH THE EQ JUST AS EASY AS THE DECA? I WOULD EAT AROUND 4000 CALORIES WITH ABOUT 300 GRAMS OF PROTEIN A DAY. I DONT WANT BLOATED WITH LOTS OF WATER BUT MAYBE THE CLEN WILL CUT ME UP? I WANT AT LEAST 20LBS OF KEEPABLE GAINS AFTER THE WATER RETENTION SUBSIDES. |
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posted January 28, 2001 09:05 PM