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 The truth about Clen
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Novice 
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My girlfriend and I were thinking about taking clen to shed our BF from seriously slacking the past few months on our diet(Damn alcohol). My girlfriend is the one that primarily needs it since she needs to lose it before a competition that's in about five weeks. Haven't found it yet but from what everybody says, it's not hard to get. What we're really wondering is if it's worth the hype that we read. We pretty much have the dosages down but wonder if it's worth it. Any info would be appreciated. P.S Not taking any AS as of yet but thinking about.     | ||
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Moderator 
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I would not let her mess with clen unless she is going to make tons of money from its use. A good diet and hard work in the gym will be better. | ||
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Moderator
Posts: 1596 |
2thick What, if any, evidence do you have regarding deleterious effects of clenbuterol on female physiology? I know lots of girls/women who have used clen, I am not aware of any ill effects nor any medical backing for claims of such ill effects. ------------------ | ||
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Moderator
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Macro, Clen is a substance that has not been used in high dosages in humans for a long time...therefore we do not know the long-term side effects. Read the post, she is lazy and she needs to go to the gym to lose the weight. You make it look like steroids are a cure-all. I responded to this case and I do not appreciate you trying to question my recommendation without any reason other than to make me look bad. | ||
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Moderator
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BTW- I know that clen is not a hormone (steroid). | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 1449 |
2Thick, I recall that you posted a thread several months ago on the use of Clenbuterol post-cycle to help preserve gains. But I can't find the thing! Is this information still valid in your opinion, and, if so, do you still have a copy of your original post? Dexter ------------------ | ||
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Moderator
Posts: 6339 |
Dex, Clen is highly anti-catabolic. But you shouldn't use it as a way to avoid hard work. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 872 |
BUT! Hard work + clen = better results!  Yeah, my .02 cents, like it matters. ------------------ EMAIL: [email protected] | ||
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Freak 
Posts: 1664 |
I agree with the use of clen, however I agree with what 2Thick is conveying. This gentleman has clearly admitted in his post that he and his wife have gained some weight due to poor diet and alcohol. What kind of committment is that? Diet will kick it, clen is not a majic pill for lazyness. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 984 |
2thick is right..this guy and girl are looking for a magic pill so they don't have to diet..clen is good but not that good. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 872 |
quote: No, now i agree totally with this concept. I understand that if someone is overweight, then drugs are not always the answer. But, for someone who is in good shape, works out regularly, etc, clen would be a good way to go as far as maximizing fat loss at a more rapid pace. That is one reason im giving it to my fiance. She has a damn good body already, but would like to burn a little more fat and sculp her body a bit. We are trying this, instead of going the anavar/winny route, but they still may be an option later on in the future, just now, we are sticking with clen. ------------------ EMAIL: [email protected] | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 134 |
whoever said that clens has no studys on long term effects on humans is a little off.clen is a bronchial asthma medication used in many countries for that reason.the only reason why they dont produce it in the u.s is that we have so many similar medications that its not worth it for them to try to market it.for ex. we have albutarol, theador and many others, including cortico steroids.hope this helps clarify things | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 585 |
The use of a drug, such as clen, while dieting is better than dieting alone, in my opinion. Clen is a beta-2 agonist, we know the effects of beta-agonists, what with the use of albuterol, orciprenaline, etc., for asthmatics...and this is for long term use. In reality, clen is safer than ephedrine and norephedrine, since there is less beta-1 agonism (found in high concentrations in cardiac tissue). The major downfall in clen is the short term of activity, due to high beta receptor affinity, so for longer terms ephedrine based products are better. Adrenergics reduce hunger, protect HDL levels and preserve LBM in dieters, so why would not using them be better? If the poster is thinking that the drug will cause them to lose weight with no effort, then that is their stupidity, but that does not negate the reality that these drugs are beneficial in dieting. I am always amazed at people who love to throw around the idea that losing weight is so easy, and that fat people are just lazy or weak-willed. People with this mentality tend to be naturally lean and can drop bodyfat while watching the soaps and eating rice and potatoes, but those of us who have to fight genetics know the reality. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 75 |
quote: Very true, Clenbuterol is used as a Beta-2 bronchodilator all over the world and has been used "long-term" for a while now. However, the difference b/w using it for this purpose vs. using it to help burn body fat lies in the dosages. For asthmatics, the recommended dosage is 20-40mcg/day. How much do we use to burn fat? Oh, about 100-200mcg. So, I think the previous statement about not knowing the long-term effects of Clen use (for this purpose at this dose) was an accurate one. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1172 |
i've learned myself that diet drugs are about 10% responsible for progress. if there is one word that sums up getting lean its consistency. cheat says screw you big time. one bad day where you shove 2000 over maintence down your throat can undo the previous 2-4 days. dieting is a real bitch, but most of us will have to deal with it. | ||
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Novice
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Ok, just to set things straight. I never said that we weren't going to workout. What I said is that yes we slacked for a few months on our diet and working out. We pretty much lost the motivation for a while. We also thought her next competition was in September but one came up that's in about four weeks. We've just recently started working out regularly and eating right. Roughly about three weeks. We're more mature then to think that it is some all powerful pill that's going to melt her BF like butter. Just from what we've read, it would help maximize the results. We have been pretty much doing cardio anywhere from three to six days a week trying to get as much off as we can. The only carbs we ever eat right now is maybe some wheat bread or vegetables. Other than that it's all protein. So I'll ask again before this whole allegation thing started. Is Clen really worth the hype and will it help enough to go looking for it? | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 20 |
Hey 2Thick...steroids are highly anabolic, but you shouldn't use them to avoid hard work!! What discussion board is this again? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 225 |
The reason Clenbuterol is highly anti-catabolic, is beause it is selective only to the beta-2 adrenoreceptor. This receptor influences protein synthesis. Therefore, the more stimulation, the higher the protein turnover for a given person. Hence, more muscle mass is kept after a cycle because protein synthesis is up-regulated by the clen . godspeed | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1449 |
This is a good thread. Dexter ------------------ |
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posted January 28, 2001 06:46 PM