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MrGrow

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posted January 28, 2001 02:19 PM

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I will do 300mg Deca/week and 40mg Stanolol/day. I will use Clomid just from the beginning and of course at the end! in the last weeks I will use HCG. 3X 2500 IE
i do not want to take testo! so...can I avoid DECA DICK when I do it like that? and...the cycle will be for 8 weeks!


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Green

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posted January 28, 2001 02:40 PM

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Why are you ruling out test? It's great shit!
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MrGrow

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posted January 28, 2001 03:06 PM

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because I am a beginner, and I do not want to have water retention! and test will do that!


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MrGrow

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posted January 28, 2001 03:18 PM

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I mean, I don't want to have a lot of water retention! so please tell me if I can avoid Deca Dick when I am going with Clomid from the beginning to the end and take HCG the last weeks!


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Cornellius

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posted January 28, 2001 03:43 PM

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You have low chances to have deca dick because of the winny. Deca/winny is a great combo, winny can help lowwer the progesterone conversion of deca.
You won�t need the hcg. No clomid during the cycle, you are useing low doses.
Be carefull of your diet if you don�t want to retain water. I did a deca/winny cycle and retained tons of water. Remember: the fatter you are, the more water you�ll retain.

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MrGrow

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posted January 28, 2001 04:00 PM

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thx, man, so I will not need any of the things (Clomid,HCG) or what? Clomid at the end, thats all?


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lawnsaver

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posted January 28, 2001 04:46 PM

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If want to prevent deca dick an you dont want water retention, take 250mg of test every other week. The only effect you will get it increases sex drive. Or try proviron 25mg ed

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MrGrow

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posted January 28, 2001 04:50 PM

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sorry, but I saw other things! A friend of mine took test 250mg a week! and he had water retention!


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The_Iron_Game

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posted January 28, 2001 04:51 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by MrGrow:
because I am a beginner, and I do not want to have water retention! and test will do that!

Yes but deca will give you water retention as well. Granted test will give you slightly more water but you can take things to prevent this. Test is by far better in your situation.

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MrGrow

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posted January 28, 2001 04:53 PM

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I think I will take one tab of Clomid every day to prevent deca dick! I do not want to take test, please understand that! or should I better take 200mg a week (deca)


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thesuperstar

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posted January 28, 2001 04:56 PM

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test. is the best.

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RRECEIVER

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posted January 28, 2001 05:02 PM

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if your so petrified of deca dick, then why are you taking deca at all? at this dosage you shouldnt have any problems since it is combined with winny. dont take clomid throughout the cycle. just keep some close by if the problem arises(pun intended).


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MrGrow

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posted January 28, 2001 05:20 PM

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why not take it throughout the cycle? what should happen?


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MrGrow

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posted January 28, 2001 06:01 PM

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bump!


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mike001

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posted January 28, 2001 06:24 PM

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what is the real reason you want to aviod test. if it is because of water, that is the most stupid damn thing i have ever heard. YOU NEED TEST IN YOUR CYCLE the water will go away and it will all pay off. i am about to do the exact same damn cycle except with prop in it. as a matter fact! my last cycle was sust500/week, EQ300/wk and DBOL35mg/day. you know what? i didnt retain any fucking water! my bench went up 95lbs, i got very vascular and looked great. you may be one of those like me that retain NO WATER so now to end this.. just go get some damn testosterone! you need it with deca. you will be very happy with those 3 combinations. and if you are not even going to listen to us experienced members, then why even ask the question


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2Thick

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posted January 28, 2001 07:47 PM

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Your cycle looks very good.

You do not have to worry about Deca Dick. It is very rare and only really happens to people that believe it will happen.

You will not prevent Deca Dick with the Clomid.

Don't worry about the water retention with this cycle as long as you get about 2 gallons of water per day.

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MrGrow

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posted January 29, 2001 07:09 AM

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I will twll it one more time! I am a beginner and I do not use test in my first cycle and thats it!
why ist it impossible to prevent deca dick with clomid? tell me, why shoul that be impossible? and with HCG and so on?
why!!!


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The_Iron_Game

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posted January 29, 2001 08:35 AM

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Oh sorry , I didnt realise beginners weren't allowed to use test.

My appologies friend

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Hardcore4Evr

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posted January 29, 2001 01:48 PM

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Water retention can be taken care of if you know how. Right now im taking Aratest/Deca/Winny/Clen/Eca stack. SO, of course im gaining mass from the test/deca, yet with winny i feel harder, stronger, and am more vascular and cut. My bodyfat has already started to drop a little, and the clen is only helping. Taking Nolva can also kill some of the water you may be gaining on test. Basically, the guys are right. Excluding test from you cycle would be a waste of gear in my opinion. You will get so much more out of it if you stack the 3 together. Get some Nolva if your worried about retention.

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