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Cool Novice 
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Hey guys, I was planning on doing a cutting cycle of Winny, Eq, Eca, and T3 in couple months. Ill most likely run the winny at 50mg ed and eq between 250-400mg. Im also gonna do Eca along with this, and was wondering if i should be taking the T3 the same days as the Eca or alternate. Also, Ive never used Cytomel before, is 25mcg a decent dosage to take or will take be ineffective?     | ||
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Freak 
Posts: 1621 |
If you are looking to get rid of bodyfat 25mcgs of t3 wont kick it, if you want to be safe dont go above 100mcgs, you can go higher and some people do. Yes you can use it at the same time as either clen or eca but dont use clen and eca together. Peace A good and very precautious T3 cycle would go as follows. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 97 |
Iron Game, Is the cycle you listed T-3 alone or stacked with gear? Thanks | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 530 |
I THINK THE CYCLE HE POSTED WAS T3 ONLY. THAT IS THE SAME T3 CYCLE THAT I AM GOING TO TRY WITH MY FINA,EQ CYCLE FOR THE SUMMER. M18 | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 1113 |
That T-3 cycle would be with AS. That is just the T-3 part of the equation. Don't use T-3 without the accompanyment of anabolics. It is very catabolic and without any anabolics to support muscle mass the T-3 will eat right through it and leave you a lot smaller than you wished for. ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 41 |
Thanks for the replies. There was also 1 more thing on my mind. Ive never done a cutting cycle before, so what should my diet look like considering im going to be on winny and eq....do i still need to take in alot of calories to get the most of out the juice? What should my daily calorie/carb/and fat intake be around. Thanks again | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 530 |
WHEN I AM CUTTING I TRY TO KEEP MY PROTEIN EXTRA HIGH TO AVOID LOOSING MUSCLE. I TRY TO GET 2 GRAMS OF PROTEIN PER POUND OF BODY MASS. I TRY TO KEEP THE CARBS TO 100GRAMS OR LOWER AND NEVER EAT CARBS AFTER 5:OOPM UNLESS YOU WORKOUT LATE AT NIGHT AND EVEN WHEN I AM BULKING I TRY TO KEEP MY FAT INTAKE LOW ABOUT 40-60 GRAMS A DAY WHEN BULKING AND ABOUT 25-40 GRAMS WHEN CUTING. HOPE THIS HELPS M18 | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1113 |
You really should know about diet long before you use AS. This is the aspect that takes the longest to figure out. You should know how to manipulate your body through diet before you use AS. Diet is the most important factor in determining success in the gym. I would advise holding off on the AS and especially T-3 until you learn more about diet. You need to know the calories at which you loose weight, but not too much, to prevent muscle catabolism. Any more than 1.5g/lb of protein is probably a waste of calories as there is(beleive it or not) only so much protein the body can use. Excess protein will be converted to glucose and burned as fuel. Why not just consume those calories in a usefull way as opposed to wasting protein. Carbs are a better source or nutrition. Low carbs don't equate greater fat loss, they equate to less water retention making it appear as though you are significantly loosing weight. I personaly loose fat and preserve muscle mass more efficiently with a good deal of carbs. I never go under 250g a day. And as long as you are using more calories than you are consuming it is safe and in my opinion preferable to eat carbs late in the day and even before bed. This will spare the protein you eat with those carbs for it's main purpose of maintaining muscle mass. I eat carbs just before bed to fully utilize the protein with that meal. Like I mentioned, as long as your body is using more cals thatn you are consuming, these carbs will not be stored as fat...They will be used for energy or glycogen storage. Most likely the later if you eat them later, but you need that glycogen for your workouts. The thing that is a constant in dieting for all people is that you must consume lees cals than you eat. Simple as that. Carbs and fats are essential in my experience. They spare protein(dietary and muscle) and help keep the metabolism and hormonal funcions running smoothly. Everyone is different though and that is why you must experiment with yourself to find out what works for you. That takes time and a lot of it and that is why I suggest you hold off on a cutting cycle for a while. ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 530 |
GOOD POST BEEZERS. THAT HAS ALOT OF GOOD INFO AND SOME OF THAT STUFF I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW. I GUESS YOU LEARN SOMETHING NEW EVERYDAY  M18 | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 41 |
Beezers, good post and thanks for the info. I know a good deal about diet, but was somewhat confused on calorie intake while on a cutting cycle. Thanks for the info. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1113 |
The main guide to calorie consumption while cutting is that you MUST consume LESS calories than you use. So if you know how many calories you are using in a day you can manipulate your calorie intake so that you consume an amount of calories that is less than you are using but not so low that your body can't support life functions and muscle support. You need to eat enough to support that muscle but you also need to restrict enough so your body has to go else where for its energy needs(fat stores). That is a given for every human. Now everyone is different so everyone requires a different amount of calories to carry out this very delicate proccess. You have to be strict, strict, strict with your diet to ensure you are in a calories deficient environment suitable for fat loss but not so deficient that your body has to dig even deeper for energy needs(muscle catabolism). This is the part that takes time and experimentation but once you get the feel for it you will be able to manipulate you body quite efficiently through diet. What foods to eat to controll the functions of the body is also an important part in body composition. You will need sufficient protein to spare muscle but as I mentioned earlier you can only use so much. Carbs spare protein and as long as you are calorie deficient they won't interfere with fat loss as so many have come to beleive. If you get you diet down pat then with the aid of AS you will become a cutting machine. Without proper diet though the drugs will be virtually useless. ------------------ [This message has been edited by Beezers (edited January 28, 2001).] [This message has been edited by Beezers (edited January 28, 2001).] | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 387 |
Listen to Beezers, I would put diet as #1 in importance. we all now how to bench and we all pretty much can shoot some sauce in our ass but dieting is much more complex and restrictive! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 70 |
quote: Iron-Game, I'm planning on doing a cutting cycle with Triacana, mainly b/c I'm just worried about how T3 will affect my thyroid. How do you compare the two in terms of efficacy and safety? Also, that cycle above for T3 is only for 3 weeks. If I was to do it, could I somehow do the last 5 weeks of my cutting cycle with Triacana? Would this be safe and effective? Thanks. ------------------ | ||
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Freak
Posts: 1621 |
quote: That is with aas. Never incorporate T3 in a so called cutting or pre contest stage unless you have plenty of aas in your system. It is extremelly catabolic and will have no problems in eating your muscle. Mustang, you should know by now I dont use or recommend using T3 without aas. I remember telling yourself about your T3 cycle in which you were starting its use too quickly, before your sust had chance to kick in ------------------ | ||
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Freak
Posts: 1621 |
quote: Cuts, Triacana is by far safer than T3 ever will be, it is also safer than T4. However that being said it is also much less effective than any both of them. If you want to be on the safe side then Triacana will do providing everything else in there is correct, diet, training, sleep and so on. If you want a little extra run for your money but also still to be safe then give T4 a try. Much safer than T3 but also as with triacana it is less effective ------------------ |
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posted January 27, 2001 05:43 PM
