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decadon

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posted January 27, 2001 10:06 AM

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during my rugby season...strength with a little mass gain is goal ..diet will be clean with mod carb, mod pro, low fat

weeks 1 &2
100mgs of prop eod
500mgs of enth day 1
45mgs of dbol/day
100mgs of winny/day
25mg clom/day

3&4&5
15g of pyruvate/day
creatine and ala
zebutol
25mg clom/eod

weeks 6 & 7
same tests
30mgs dbol
125mgs winny/day
25mg clom/day

weeks 8 & 9 10
15g of pyruvate/day
creatine and ala
zebutol
25mg clom/eod

weeks 11 12
same tests
150mg winny/day
25mg clom/day

13 14 15
15g of pyruvate/day
creatine and ala
zebutol
25mg clom/eod

16 17
same tests
100mg winny/day
25mg clom/day

18 19 20
15g of pyruvate/day
creatine and ala
zebutol
25mg clom/eod

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panerai

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posted January 27, 2001 11:09 AM

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That's 14 weeks cycle,and you call it short? Are you kidding me?
No flames,but looks to me,that you were drunk when you plan this "cycle".


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decadon

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posted January 29, 2001 02:13 PM

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2 weeks on and 2 weeks off...why would you think i was drunk..no flame to you ..but i would read peoples posts a little better..two weeks on and 2 weeks off..this was a theoretical type thing looking for input...don't reply without backup for your opinion


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300Kleen the newbie!

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posted January 29, 2001 02:24 PM

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That looks interesting. I suppose it's worth a try.

You should keep in mind that the Test. Enanth. will be transferring over onto your off weeks because it's a long lasting ester that builds on itself.

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big_guy1

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posted January 29, 2001 03:19 PM

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I personally don't get short cycles, most, althought I have read most gains come in the first 4 weeks of a cycle somewhere...I am a fan of omna though so gains usually don't get fulls wing till bout week 4....anyways,t he cycle looks interesting, I would stick with quicker acting roids, rather then the Te, stick more with the Tp..as is the Te would be active during "off" weeks...I dunno if you get tested, but keep that in mind too for during season cycles...

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panerai

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posted January 29, 2001 03:31 PM

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That's nice that you belive that your cycle is 2 on,2 off.But 300 Kleen explained it to you already,so I guess,I don't have to back my words up.
Read a little more about esters,half lifes and inhibition of natural test production.
Sorry,for calling you drunk,it was fina in me talking...I hope no hard feelings?


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cockdezl

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posted January 29, 2001 04:18 PM

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The test doses seem a little low. I would choose 200mg of T. enanthate for days 1-3, then continuing with T. propionate EOD at 100mg minimum. This front-load will push blood levels up then allow for the enanthate to exit the system by the end of the 2nd week, while maintaining the test levels with the propionate.

Also, the off cycle maybe too short. This may not be sufficient to allow for complete recovery of the HPTA. Might be better to go 3 off.


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growin'

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posted January 29, 2001 04:39 PM

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Do you guys think 50mg Prop ED is enough, or would you really need to do 100mg ED? I was thinking of this for my 3rd cycle. Doing:
Day (1)-1000mg Enanthate
Day (1-14)50-100mg Prop, 75mg Fina, 50-100mg Winny. I would take 4 weeks off after.


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MeanOne

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posted January 29, 2001 05:28 PM

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Okay, no. First of all, take at least 3-4 weeks off in between. AT LEAST!!! I don't understand the logic of your cycles. Very confusing. and all over the place. I think you need to relax a bit, and stick to basics. 12 days of a bunch of Propinate, fina, and 14 days of winstrol is a good place to start. Then depending on how you respond to gear (if your body perfers anabolic or androgenic drugs) you can switch the winny out for 100mgs of Dbol/day, or some other androgen, but don't just shotgun 10 different drugs, all to close together to each other, over that long of a period of time and expect the world to fall on your lap. The biggest thing about short cycling is to KEEP IT BASIC!


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decadon

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posted January 29, 2001 09:31 PM

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meanone....i think you r mixing growing and together...i have edited the cycle...i know what the half lives of the esters are...drugs are considered pretty well cleared at 5-7 half lives depending on the person...we are probably more toward the 5 as were are highly fit people...faster biotransformation of substances will occur..i have prop, enth, winny, and d-bol...i have used fina for my last 2 cycles..so i am switching to these little guys ..done four cycles before..so i am not a newbie perse...but i was throwing some ideas arround in my head because of my goals...and the fact that i respond well to dbol quickly..so more ideas..i want to get this right with a lot of different input./...thanks for your time guys


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