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Another article, You've studied and researched for months, and you want to do your first cycle. On the boards, you've read countless posts about hair loss, gyno, liver damage, and prostate cancer, all caused by steroid use. But none of this is going to happen to you, because you've got it figured out. All those horrible side effects are caused by the heavy androgens like Anadrol, trenbolone (fina), dbol, and particularly testosterone. So, you're going to use the "anabolic" steroids, which are much milder and safer than the androgenic steroids. Or at least that's what everybody says...isn't it? This article will attempt to dispel the misinformation that exists in the bodybuilding community regarding the side effects of testosterone relative to the "anabolic" steroids. As always, the author does not condone the use of steroids by persons not under the care and guidance of a qualified physician. Testosterone Well, as for hair loss, testosterone can be a contributing factor for those men who are predisposed to male pattern baldness. Testosterone's effect on hair loss can be made worse by the conversion of test to Dihydrotestosterone. DHT forms via the action of 5-alpha reeducates on testosterone. The DHT-induced hair loss can be alleviated by using an enzyme inhibitor, such as Finasteride (Proscar or Propecia). There are also several topical treatments that reduce the effects of androgens on hair loss. So, while testosterone can contribute to hair loss problems, the problems can be reduced. For the second problem listed in the Introduction, gynecomastia ("bitch tits"), testosterone does not cause this problem directly. Instead, testosterone can be converted (by the aromatase enzyme) into estrogen, which can cause the problem. A high estrogen level also causes water retention and mood shifts in males, and may be responsible for increased acne. So, we want to use an aromatase inhibitor and completely eliminate the conversion of testosterone to estrogen, right? Not so fast! Estrogen has some beneficial effects. First, estrogen is responsible for maintaining the levels of key minerals in the body, particularly in the bones. Over time, a lack of estrogen can lead to osteoporosis. Second, estrogen is mostly responsible for the high energy levels that many feel when on cycle. Finally, estrogen has been hypothesized to play a role in building muscle, although this role is not understood. So, if aromatase inhibitors are to be used, they should be used sparingly. For example, a quarter of a milligram (0.25 mg) of arimidex every other day appears to be sufficient to eliminate the negative effects of estrogen, while still allowing a normal level to be present. Alternatively, estrogen blockers such as Nolvadex and Clomid can be used to prevent negative side effects of estrogen. Many believe that testosterone is harsh on the liver, because elevated liver enzymes (ALT and AST) are observed with testosterone use. However, these enzymes are not an accurate indicator of liver damage (resistance training by itself causes elevated levels of these enzymes). Testosterone (esters or suspension) has not been shown to increase GGT levels, which would be a true indication of liver damage. So, testosterone is well tolerated, even in elderly individuals (J. Clin. Endocrinal. Metab., 83:10, 3435-3436). Testosterone also has not been shown to cause an elevated risk for prostate cancer, although DHT (from testosterone) has been anecdotally linked to Benign Prostatic Hyperplasia (it is important to note that there is no statistical correlation between endogenous T and BPH, meaning that there may not be an effect at all). As discussed under hair-loss, DHT formation can be effectively prevented by the use of Proscar, if the individual is susceptible to BPH. Remember that testosterone has been in the human body since the beginning of the species. It is not "harsh", and the side effects are minor (and can be controlled) in relation to the desired (muscle building) effects of the molecule. Synthetic Steroids Nandrolone (Deca) is probably the first choice for those who do not want to use testosterone. Deca binds with greater affinity to the Androgen Receptor than testosterone, and it has minimal impact on hair loss, gyno, and BPH. However, deca does not effectively promote the non-AR mediated paths to mass building, and it actually blocks some (neurotransmitter?) paths that testosterone mediates, and the result is a loss of libido and the inability to attain an erection ("deca-dick"). By itself, it will stop endogenous testosterone production, and since it does not aromatize, estrogen levels in the body will fall below normal (not good). While deca is an excellent accessory steroid, it should always be used in conjunction with testosterone to prevent these effects. Primobolan is a highly regarded steroid, but because of its structure (ring methylated at the A ring), it does not bind the AR as effectively. Therefore, effective doses would be prohibitively expensive, and by itself it would not be that useful. Primo will not aromatize easily, and the lack of estrogen production without the presence of testosterone is not desirable. Mesterolone and masteron (drostanolone) are similar in effects. Equipoise is another accessory steroid, one that doesn't bind the AR as effectively as testosterone. In conjunction with testosterone, it can help vascularity and hardness, but by itself it is not that effective. It is believed to be aromatizable, but the extent of estrogen formation is unknown. Again, endogenous testosterone (and estrogen) levels will be affected. Trenbolone is a very effective steroid for mass building, but many believe it to be too harsh and toxic for a beginner to even consider. Oral Steroids Dianabol Anadrol Fluoxymesterone (Halo) Winstrol (oral or injected) Oxandrolone CONCLUSION ------------------ [This message has been edited by The_Iron_Game (edited January 27, 2001).] ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1298 |
BUMP! Damn Bro your putting up alot of good posts ------------------ BROS BEFORE HO'S ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1152 |
that's good reading, bump. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Cool Novice ![]() ![]() Posts: 18 |
Yes, bump this great reading to the top. As a side note, I was in a BBing chat room last week. Some guy was in there saying shit like..."Take it from me, don't do steroids! They will screw you up and cause problems. I'm living proof! Now I have to go to the doctors to see what they can do for me." After I slowly pumped him for info on what he did, he said he did a D-bol only cycle for 8 weeks and now his dick won't work (among other things). He didn't follow it up with Clomid, HCG, etc...No stacking it with test. ONLY D-BOL!!! It's the uneducated morons that give gear a bad rap. Pisses me off!!! He deserves what he gets for being so stupid. ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 2219 |
A very good threat and I beleive test is a staple in any good AS diet. ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Cool Novice ![]() ![]() Posts: 22 |
Yeah, really terrific, thanks. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 437 |
The longer it stays on the top,the better.Great post!!! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Novice ![]() Posts: 9 |
good info, bump ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 733 |
Definately a good post...... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 190 |
Die Hard.................you getting a kick back for using that tag? ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Novice ![]() Posts: 9 |
no, heard it on one of their commercial. thought it was some funny $hit. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 167 |
I love the info your putting up. ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 377 |
Fantastic post! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1228 |
Very very good post. Just one thing though, I thought Clomid was used to kickstart natural test levels (not oppose the effects of test aromatization) by stimulating the production of FSH and LH. ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 5339 |
Julez-How clomid does this is by suppressing estrogen's signal on the hypothalamus and pituitary.It has anti-estrogenic activity,that is selective in certain tissues,much like nolvadex...Bumpin'this bad boy back up for my fellow red-meat eating test freaks.... ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 362 |
test is da best. ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 194 |
Hell of a post bro! Mass Monster ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1395 |
Another good post bro. Very nice reading.......keep'em comming. ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Cool Novice ![]() ![]() Posts: 44 |
Your post shows why test is easy to like. Good read, thanks. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Cool Novice ![]() ![]() Posts: 35 |
Great post Iron, thats the kind of stuff I love to read on this board. Thats educational. Thanks. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Cool Novice ![]() ![]() Posts: 30 |
Another very good post bro., keep them coming!
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