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The_Iron_Game

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posted January 26, 2001 12:58 PM

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I have before now never used anything smaller than 23G, I would like to give a 25G a try and was wondering if you have ever had problems getting out oil based substances such as deca and test.

Unfortunately I have only ever seen a 25G 5/8 needle over here (Iron Ghost & Other UK users?) How available are 25G 1 inch pin/syringe combos over in the US and what price are they?

Can anyone help or advise please?

Thanks in advance

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Your_Moms_Kneepads

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posted January 26, 2001 01:06 PM

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There are lots of 25g 1 1/2" needles here. Great but it takes awhile to complete the injection. Heating the syringe/amp/vial will make even very thick oils much less viscous and hence easier to disperse.

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Your_Moms_Kneepads

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posted January 26, 2001 01:07 PM

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There are lots of 25g 1 1/2" needles here. Great but it takes awhile to complete the injection. Heating the syringe/amp/vial will make even very thick oils much less viscous and hence easier to disperse.

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Slopain

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posted January 26, 2001 01:07 PM

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There are 25g 1" pins, I remembered seeing them but wasnt to interested.

You could shoot all water based (micronized) stuff through 25g. I wouldn't want to shoot anythign thick like primo it would take a while and alot of pressure. Im sure deca/test would be a pain also - but don't have any personal experience - I only used to shoot winny through the 25 (noticed used to!! lol).

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Slopain

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posted January 26, 2001 01:09 PM

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There are 25g 1" pins, I remembered seeing them but wasnt to interested.

You could shoot all water based (micronized) stuff through 25g. I wouldn't want to shoot anythign thick like primo it would take a while and alot of pressure. Im sure deca/test would be a pain also - but don't have any personal experience - I only used to shoot winny through the 25 (noticed used to!! lol).

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ThePitbull

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posted January 26, 2001 01:09 PM

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I tried a 25 guage pin last week for a test/eq shot. Couldn't get it to go through. Of course I didn't warm up the oil and didn't try it for a long time. I just don't have the patience for it. At least with 22 guage the shots only take seconds.

Although you always hear about bros here using 25 guage. Must be a lot more patient then me.

Good luck!

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Beezers

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posted January 26, 2001 01:17 PM

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Just used one for ara a couple minutes ago. No problems, it just takes longer and more force. By the end of the 2cc's my forearm was tired as well as pumped, but it works.

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The_Iron_Game

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posted January 26, 2001 01:22 PM

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Thanks everyone,

I think Im gonna stick with my 23G, takes long enough for me with that

Peace

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MP5

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posted January 26, 2001 01:27 PM

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I imagine that if you had a friend over here in the USA he could get you some at a cheap price.

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2Thick

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posted January 26, 2001 01:28 PM

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They work just fine with 1cc of fluid. No heating necessary but it also depends on the oil.


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The_Iron_Game

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posted January 26, 2001 01:37 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by 2Thick:
They work just fine with 1cc of fluid. No heating necessary but it also depends on the oil.


Hey 2Thick, I have on average 6cc's/wk to shoot 4cc's of sust and 2cc's of ttokkyo labs deca (at the moment using organon deca though so a few more cc's). I can use a 25G to shoot it without having problems. I am a little worried I will need to apply too much pressure to get the oil out.

Thanks

Peace

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Amp

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posted January 26, 2001 01:39 PM

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I use them in the delt all the time. I draw the oil with a 22g needle though then I put the 25g back on. I'm shooting primo with it, it does take a little longer but I'm only doing 2cc's at once so it takes about a minute.


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Jeff_rys

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posted January 26, 2001 05:15 PM

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Iron Game, shooting Deca through a 25 gauge and a 2 cc syringe is just a breeze.
If you got real thick oil then heating the syringe with hot water (between 40 and 50 � Celcius) for 5 minutes helps alot.
As for waterbased micro refined gear an insulin needle (like 29) should be used.
A 27 gauge for Winny Zambon is really too thick.
Don't forget too shake the Winny for a few minutes before use, so it won't cloggs.
I know you know that too, but some guys here maybe do not know.
Just my opinion though. This doesn't mean anyone should agree with me.
But i will never ever use anything thicker then 25 for oil based roids and an insulin needle for waterbased and micro refined gear.

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Zeacky

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posted January 26, 2001 05:41 PM

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Well, I shoot 2 grams of Test Cypionate with a 3cc syringe 1 1/2in needle every week! All you have to do is boil some water put some water in a mug and put your vial or amp in the mug and wait 5 minutes and it takes about 30 sec to shoot 3cc's.

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big_bad_buff

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posted January 26, 2001 05:46 PM

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why do you want to use 25g? you puss lol....just joking


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The_Iron_Game

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posted January 26, 2001 07:01 PM

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Thanks for all of the replies. There is a little conflict between the two different views I am gonna give it a try and see what its like. If the worst comes to the worst then Ill have an extra 25G pin prick in me

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WC

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posted January 26, 2001 11:08 PM

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I use 25g for everything from sos to nor200 to EQ. You can push it thru, its not that hard LOL. SHEESH!!


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*B*

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posted January 26, 2001 11:19 PM

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I have to agree with WC on this one. Its not all that bad. I shot Omna and EQ with a 25 ga. 1" pin. I of course draw with an 18 ga. then switch for the injection..... "B"


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