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Author | Topic: Creatine may soon be banned | ||
Novice ![]() Posts: 4 |
Check out this articel that I found on ESPN: http://espn.go.com/moresports/news/2001/0125/1039771.html Tell me what you guys think ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Cool Novice ![]() ![]() Posts: 43 |
dont knw what to say.. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 103 |
If you inject 10 grams of creatine into lab rats every day, they dont feel well. What is not cancerous in some way? I bet if they researched it enough, carrots are cancerous as well. I get a lot from Creatine. I once gained 20 pounds on that stuff. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 138 |
Frogs generally aren't very muscular ;o) ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 215 |
damm and here i was getting ready to get big...guess i will have to give up my plans to get big on creatine and just take some roids instead lol ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Moderator ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 6248 |
Creatine is very useful...so if they ban it they will have gone too far. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1724 |
It worked to build my muscle. They have obviously never tried it. ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1565 |
Guess what was written all over the UK papers today? Creatine causes cancer. ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 126 |
This following article is from Dave's Powerstore newsletter, and has about all you need to see that this article is the biggest piece of bullshit ever:
To whom it may concern: There has recently been a rash of misinformation that has been spread around the world that has arisen from a statement made by a Mr. ? Dr. ? Martin Husch for the French Agency of Medical Security for Food (AFSSA), claiming a link between creatine monohydrate supplementation and cancer. 1. approximate translation of the AFSSA statement on cancer "considering that creatine and creatinine under certain I do agree that we need to concern ourselves about impurities in creatine and any unregulated substances (ie. Problems previously with tryptophan and eosinophilic It then goes on to say that the effects of high levels of creatine ingestion has not been studied in the short or long There are other issues with this - firstly there have been no true epidemiological studies of creatine use and papers In the final summary they state that supplementation with creatine constitutes a risk, but it has been insufficiently I am shocked that this amount of misinformation can be placed on the internet by such an agency claiming legitimacy Creatine may be very helpful in a number of medical conditions and thanks to this inaccurate statement we will all have difficulty in recruiting and retaining subjects. Unfortunately, it is very difficult for the lay public to 1. The person signing their name to the statement does not list their credentials. 2. The supposed scientists who evaluated the literature are not listed. 3. There is no evidence of external review of the statement. 4. The statement has internal inconsistencies (medium and long term studies not done and yet concludes that epidemiological studies show their may be a cancer risk). 5. There are no references to peer reviewed studies to support the statement. THERE ARE NO STUDIES IN HUMANS EVEN SUGGESTING AN INCREASED RISK OF CANCER WITH CREATINE. There are many papers showing an anti-cancer effect of creatine in animals: Jeong KS, Park SJ, Lee CS, Kim TW, Kim SH, Ryu SY, Williams Kristensen CA, Askenasy N, Jain RK, Koretsky AP. Creatine Schiffenbauer YS, Meir G, Cohn M, Neeman M. Cyclocreatine Ara G, Gravelin LM, Kaddurah-Daouk R, Teicher BA Antitumor Miller EE, Evans AE, Cohn M. Inhibition of rate of tumor Tarnopolsky MA Potential benefits of creatine monohydrate Terjung RL, Clarkson P, Eichner ER, Greenhaff PL, Hespel PJ, Wyss M, Kaddurah-Daouk R. Creatine and creatinine There are several reviews of safety: Poortmans JR, Francaux Mihic S, MacDonald JR, McKenzie S, Tarnopolsky MA. Acute Terjung RL, Clarkson P, Eichner ER, Greenhaff PL, Hespel PJ, I would hope that Reuters, ESPN, National Post, Associated Press, etc. would get their facts straight before they put out misinformation. I know that a flashy Sincerely, Mark Tarnopolsky, MD, PhD, FRCP(C), ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 128 |
Creatine does make me feel sick. I quit using it because it gave me a headache and overall sick feeling. But it does work for gainng or retaining. However, I am opposed to banning it which is probably what will happen making it even more popular. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 347 |
we sue bill philips for bring creatine out... now we all have cancer. ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1204 |
To tell you the truth, i don't give a shit about creatine...I quit using it a long time ago. Just tried it for the hype. Many more supplements are going to come and go...some because they'll be banned and some because they won't sell because they don't work. The real 'stuff' will always be a better value and give gains that one will keep, not piss away two weeks after they're done. So in a word, they can ban whatever they want...the real stuff is already banned here and many people still usesit with REAL results. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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