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DCS

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posted January 25, 2001 10:22 PM

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Whenever you overload a mechanism in the body there is the possiblity that you will permanently damage it. Think of drugs like ecstasy, cocaine, and amphetamine. They create so much brain cell activation that its like a fire in the brain. The cells are so excited they explode. Thats why these drugs are called excitotoxins in suffiecient quantity. Test has functions in the brain and its cocevable that if you took supra doses outrageous enough that you';d blow something out permanently. Not just in the brain but all ove rhte body as well. Truew I have no evidence for this idea. But it follows from what is observed with other drugs.


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The_Iron_Game

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posted January 26, 2001 03:48 AM

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OK 2Thick and all else, Im glad for you if you find 180mgs of raw test is enough to put on 25lbs, haha if your logic follows through then with 360mgs you can put on 50lbs and with 1000mgs 100lbs. I dont think so my friend.

You go ahead and use small amounts.

I AM IN NOW WAY PREACHING HIGHER AMOUNTS AND WHOEVER SAID MORE SIDES WITH HIGHER DOSES PLEASE RE-READ WHAT HAS BEEN SAID

I have said 500mgs over 250mgs, this is not a large or high dose and the sides that are different between the 2 different amounts are negligible.

You go ahead and do what you want. Preach what you think is right but when someone finishes their first cycle and gains 10lbs (because of the placebo effect and the dedication, nutrition and training, not the mere 180mgs of test) and are unhappy with these gains. Let it be on your advice not mine.

All I have is one quick question for your good self.

Do you think the sides between 250mgs of sust and 500mgs of sust are really that dramatic a change?

It is a direct question and I am not talking about 750 mgs or 1000mgs just those 2 amounts mentioned.

Peace

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The_Iron_Game

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posted January 26, 2001 06:02 AM

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Is there any reason not to use high test doses???

"BECAUSE WE ARE LAZY!"

Krusher, no there is not any reason why we shouldnt use high doses.


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The_Iron_Game

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posted January 26, 2001 06:05 AM

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WTF


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The_Iron_Game

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posted January 26, 2001 06:34 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by WC:
I agree with 2thick. The biggest guys I know use low doses with time off. One guy does barbell rows with 495 for reps and bench 550. When he found out that I was on for so long, he and I had a long discussion about juice. The guy and his partner train like madmen! They eat their asses off, and juice time is less on than the off. One guy is competing at the USA Super-heavies next year. Ever since he explained to me that food is the most anabolic thing you can put into your body, I have made much better gains!


I am pretty sure the biggest guys in the gym are not going to say they are on 1000mgs + / wk. According to the biggest guys they use smaller amounts than everyone of us.


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2Thick

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posted January 26, 2001 01:15 PM

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For a novice: If you take 250mg/week and you do not gain at least 20 pounds during your cycle then you must be doing something wrong or you have awful genetics (which will be about 5% of the users).

The reason I say higher dosages are for lazy people is because they rather up the dosage to make gains than to work hard in the gym and on their diets.

As WC has said, food is the most anabolic substance you can put into your body.


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