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ultimaincubus

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posted January 24, 2001 04:52 PM

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My next bulking cycle will be 10 weeks long. Now I know that steroids lose their effectiveness after 10 weeks. However, since different ones use different receptors, couldn't you go longer? What I am thinking of is this. I am going to use T200, D-Bol, and EQ for bulking. If I want to cut up after, could this be possible? I was thinking on doing a cycle out to 16 or 18 weeks. Using T3 for six weeks, and winny and primo for 8. Do these cutting drugs interfere with the bulking ones? Will they be using the same receptors? It seems that if they are not, then you should be able to run a longer cycle in this fashion. Or is it better just to wait for 10 weeks then do some cutting?


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ultimaincubus

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posted January 24, 2001 06:38 PM

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ultimaincubus

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posted January 24, 2001 11:06 PM

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nitestalker

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posted January 24, 2001 11:14 PM

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Take yout test and D" and run it for 4 weeks take 3 off then double the dose and run it for another 4. When your done with that take one clomid for 10 days. Start the EQ, winny and Primo with the clomid and do the same 4 on 3 off 4 on. Forget the T3 unless your entering a show. Don't use the EQ with your bulk cycle. I know that you might not want to come of for the 3 weeks but this is key to giving your receptors a cnhance to rest then you'll come back and blast them with a double dose. Should get the same gains as the first time. Good luck.


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MUSTANG_18

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posted January 24, 2001 11:19 PM

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IF YOU ARE ASKING IF YOU CAN BULK AND THEN GO STRAIGHT INTO A CUTING CYCLE, THEN I WOULD HAVE TO SAY YOU CAN'T. I KNOW SOME PEOPLE MAY DISAGREE WITH ME BUT I THINK YOU SHOULD WAIT A LITTLE WHILE TO LET YOUR BODY ADJUST TO THE NEW MUSCLE MASS, BECAUSE IF YOU TRY CUTING RIGHT AFTER BULKING YOU ARE GOING TO LOOSE SOME OF THE MUSCLE YOU WORKED SO HARD FOR. LET ME KNOW IF I UNDERSTOOD THE QUESTION RIGHT. HOPE THIS HELPS. GOOD LUCK

M18


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ultimaincubus

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posted January 25, 2001 08:10 AM

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Yes Mustang, you got it right. I tend to agree with you, but the thought had crossed my mind and I figured others may know for sure. I will just go bulk then wait for cut. Thanks for the hlep nitestalker too. I may try that in the future, but for now I suppose I will just stick to bulk, wait, then cut.


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Haas

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posted January 25, 2001 08:19 AM

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If you want gains to last at all, you better not even think about cutting for a while! Eat till you puke, eat day/night, eat sleep workout (till you puke; literally) and then try to hold it there. You gotta force glucose into those puffed cells. Muscle memory won't work if you cut too soon...
Here's an analogy. A woman gets pregnant. Takes nine months to get her stomach to get those big stretch marks...The more she eats the bigger it stretches, the bigger it gets, the bigger it will stay...
I have seen so many guys get all gased up for cycle after cycle and never eat jack shit. Soon as they are off they shrink like rinky-dink. What-the-f*uck? Eat! WO!


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Rugby

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posted January 25, 2001 09:30 AM

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You guys give some bunk information... Eat until you puke...Take 3 weeks of test and bol then wait three then double the dose... Whatever...

Different steroids do not hit different receptors. All androgens hit the androgen receptor. You dont have a specific receptor for nandrolone, a specific for test, and a specific for dbol. I dont think you should go for ten weeks. Do an 8 week cycle and bridge with anavar-slin-primo-dnp... That will get you cut enough in the off cycle. You will lose fat and get hard, trust me thats what i do.

If you want a different approach do a 2 week front loading cycle. Take 2 off. Take another 2 week cycle. Take 2 off. Take a 5 week cycle. Take 4 off then cut for 8 weeks


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nitestalker

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posted January 25, 2001 01:23 PM

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I have to respectfully disagree with you on this on Rugby. You are rite when you state that there are no specific receptors for a particular drug but this is not the point. All drugs react differently at the same receptors whether it's an androgen or anabolic. By the way there is is no such thing as an anabolic or androgenic by it self, some are just more one than the other. As far as how long to be on, it was 4 not 3 weeks on then off 3 then back on 4 but with double the dose. I'm not trying to say that being on a steroid for longer than 4 weeks is a waste of time, but think back to when most of your gains come during a cycle and I think most people will see that they come during the first 4-6 weeks then taper off into oblivion. You can also take less dosage this way. Peace


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