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 *** First Cycle, Start High or Low
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Novice 
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If you are new, your receptors are fresh and your first cycle should be the best one. Should someone hit them hard w/ high levels such as 500 mg sus for 6 weeks, 400 deca for 8 weeks and 30 mg of dbol for first 4 weeks and gain alot on their first cycle or start w/ relatively moderate dosages (400 mg of deca for 8 weeks, 30 mg dbol for 4 weeks) and leave room to grow? Since your first cycle is best, it would be wise to hit them hard, anyone disagree?     | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 87 |
I say hit them hard and get big ------------------ If You Can't Be Bigger, Be Better Looking! | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 473 |
you can do that i would make the deca 300mg and the the sus for at least 8 weeks.but dont make it to hard.later ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 85 |
Hmmm, I tend to disagree. I am in the middle of my first cycle, 200 mgs tes and 200 mgs primo per week, a pussy cycle. I went from 157-180 in four weeks and very little if any of it is fat. My flat bench work out weight went from 315 to 405. I was using 100's for shoulder presses today, never done that before. I think that your first cycle, because your receptors are fresh, should be light. I am ecstatic about my gains and would recommend that to anyone. Let me know if you need any help. | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 46 |
I'd go with a lighter dosage. With the proper diet, and training regime, you'll gain almost as much as would would with a heavy dosage cycle. Additionally, as you said, your receptors are fresh, so why overload them? Why not save some cash, and use the heavy shit when you need too. It's also good to go lighter on your first cycle so you can see how you react to certain types of gear (high blood pressure, liver enzyme levels, sex drive, gyno, acne, etc.), that way in the future, you'll also know which counteracting drugs you'll need. So, start light, be safe, and gain some more personal experience before you go for the big shit. Later | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 473 |
keep it beefy is right..but i see people taking about 500mgs of sus i think thats fine,on my first cycle i didnt take a lot and gained 40 pounds the amount was good but not a lot.later bro ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 104 |
The easiest gains come on the first cycle, that is true, but not because of "fresh receptors." It is just that you are (presumably) at your smallest/weakest then, relative to any point later in your juicing career. Diminishing marginal returns, that is all. Scubasteve, those are truly amazing gains on 200/200 test/primo! You are blessed with great genetics, I think. | ||
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Novice
Posts: 7 |
quote: BRO!!! 180 LBS and benching 405!!! That is INCREDIBLE. You are my new hero. And gaining 23 lbs in such a low dosage is amazing too. Keep it up. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 48 |
no doubt, those are some kik ass gains scuba. Thats awesome to be benching that kind of weight at 180lbs. keep it up. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 76 |
I usually keep doses like scubas. My 1st cycle was 5 dbol a day and 10mg anavar with 200mg of organon deca per week for 8 weeks. I gained 46lbs,bench went up from 425 to 485. Kept every penny of it! Went off for 15 weeks and actually got stronger, up to 515 bench right before hitting my next cycle. I say keep the dose light, pick quality gear like sus,deca,eq,primo, maybe some dbol. I would go 500sus, 300deca,and 25-30mg dbol a day. | ||
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Novice
Posts: 5 |
wc, i think we both must have great genetics, my 1st cycle was 250mg sust, 200mg deca & 20mg dbol. my strength went through the freakin roof! i went to change my girlfriends tire & accidentaly tipped her car over, (yeah! all the way over!!!) i think it must have been the dbol! | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 370 |
steve was pressing 315 at 157! that's pretty damn good if you ask me. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 85 |
Dont mean to be cocky, but I was pressing closer to 375, working out with 315. 120 pound dumbells on flat and 100s on incline. I have very small bones, so it is easy to pack on muscle. I try not to go that heavy anymore, work mainly with hammer strength now. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 16 |
Scubasteve wieghs 180 and benches 405. you must be 4'10 and have 1ft arms. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 85 |
5'6" and my arms are 2 inches, thats right. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 400 |
White boy=Franco Colombo,hehe...guys you sound like Bill Phillips,hehe... | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 954 |
Smells funny in here |
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posted January 23, 2001 10:32 PM