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santo smith

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posted January 23, 2001 08:30 PM

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i made my fina about two weeks ago for my up coming cycle in FEB. i stored it in a cool and dark spot. i looked at it today, and it looks like there are some type of flakes in there, i think it might be some glue and crap that got by the filter. do any of you guys know what i am talking about


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hardrock

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posted January 23, 2001 09:09 PM

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I have the exact same problem. I think it is just the glue and binders. I'm gonna try heating it up b4 i use it.


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Burnboy

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posted January 23, 2001 09:16 PM

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probably the glue and fillers

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lawnsaver

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posted January 23, 2001 09:18 PM

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Your fine, Get another filter and filter it again.

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dent

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posted January 23, 2001 09:20 PM

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this made me laugh cuz i had just read Mr H's post (with phone number for proof) which stated that the only thing contained in the pellets is tren and yellow # 5...no glues or binders


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santo smith

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posted January 23, 2001 10:16 PM

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so i guess i was right glue and binders.
their are not to many in there. what do you think if i still use it like it is?


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browndog1

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posted January 24, 2001 01:32 AM

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Put it through a coffee filter and it will be awesome. Trust me.


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panerai

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posted January 24, 2001 01:37 AM

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Santo,close your eyes and inject it.The more you gonna analyze what's in your fina,the less likely you will use it.


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studcj

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posted January 24, 2001 01:45 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by panerai:
Santo,close your eyes and inject it.The more you gonna analyze what's in your fina,the less likely you will use it.

heh..heh..true dat!


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xtreemrush

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posted January 24, 2001 02:09 AM

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I also had the same exact problem...I heated up then ran thru a filter again. The newly filtered bottle was lighter than the previous one. Any one think that that means that it is a weaker solution? Or color change due to removal of glue and binders?


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bmpnugls

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posted January 24, 2001 11:22 AM

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Two days ago I took my first Fina injection - used the kit and was very careful to be steril during the whole process - HOWEVER, the injection site wasn't sore for about a day, now it is slightly sore (not like Sust sore) and I have a slight red spot... Anything to worry about?


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hardrock

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posted January 24, 2001 11:26 AM

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bmpnugls, I had that happen to me on my last cycle of fina. As far as i can tell it's normal. It goes away after a day or 2.


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DieHard

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posted January 24, 2001 01:07 PM

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This is what dent is talking about.

Strassers Article-
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What's in Fina Anyway?

Q: I saw in one of your posts to a message board somewhere that your version of "Magic Dissolving Liquid" in your Fina kit only contains benzyl alcohol with a smidgen of benzyl benzoate. The other person selling Fina kits says that your kit won't remove all the glue and talc from the pellets. I don't want to inject glue or talc and I bet nobody else does either, so why can't you make a kit that removes these things?

A: The idea that Finaplix (or Component TH) pellets contain talc and/or glue used to "hold the pellets together" was started by the late Dan Duchaine. Dan didn't possess any real knowledge about pharmaceutical compounding so he guessed that something was needed to hold the pellets together and that "something" was talc and glue.

He never defined exactly what "glue" was either. I mean, are we talking about the remains of Mr. Ed here or are we talking about Krazy Glue? These ideas, despite being erroneous, soon spread like gospel in the underground world. However, it's untrue, a total fabrication, and utter bullshit because Finaplix and Component TH contain neither talc nor liquefied Mr. Ed residue!

Both of these types of anabolic pellets contain yellow dye #5, methyl-cellulose (MC) and trenbolone acetate. That's all, folks! The pellets are compressed under extreme pressure (as are most pellets and tablets) and no "glue" is used, other than the extreme pressure. None of the kits on the market remove the yellow dye and one could argue that the other guy's kit does remove the MC and mine does not (MC is what causes the "gooey residue" in the other kit).

However, MC is essentially harmless. Don't believe me? MC is used as a surfactant in Testosterone suspension and Winstrol-V. It keeps your stanozolol and Testosterone from clumping up and sticking to the insides of the bottle. Now I know someone is going to start an argument with me here and post all over the place that I'm wrong and that I'm only saying the pellets don't contain talc or glue because my kit sucks and won't remove that stuff. So, here's the telephone number for the company that makes one of the pellets: 800-247-4838 and you can call between 9 a.m. and 5 p.m. EST and verify my claim if you like.


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bmpnugls

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posted January 24, 2001 01:34 PM

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Hardrock -
was this a temparary condition or did it happen with every injection? I've postponed my next injection for a week to make sure the spot doesn't manifest itself into some type of infection.....


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hardrock

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posted January 24, 2001 01:42 PM

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Well I guess that depends on how big your lump is. All of my injections hurt for a few days. It got to the point that because i was shooting 1ml eod that i had to use both glutes, both quads, and sometimes delts.(which I would not suggest If u have a job where u are constantly lifting arms overhead)On a couple of occasions I had a pretty damn big lump that hurt extra bad. I contributed this to injection technique. They were glute shots and it's pretty hard to hold that damn needle still while pushing down the plunger. I hope this helps dude.


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bmpnugls

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posted January 24, 2001 01:55 PM

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Hardrock - I'd tend to agree, I have sore injections periodically but none with a red spot or lump..(the lump isn't really that big the head of a dime at max - but slightly red and sore). Also, the red spot is slightly lower than the injection spot??

I just didn't know if this was related to the Fina or not - I guess I'm just paranoid
since this is a "home brew" injectable.
Thanks for the input....


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bmpnugls

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posted January 24, 2001 05:51 PM

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Bump for any further comments ...


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bmpnugls

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posted January 24, 2001 10:48 PM

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Once more ... any other input....


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