I just got done reading the article at
http://www.msnbc.com/news/519652.asp?bt=nm&btu=http://www.msnbc.com/tools/newstools/d/news_menu.asp&cp1=1

and it isn't pretty. What they are going to do is hang out on the boards and find out exactly how the mail order game works.

Everyone brags about getting the letters in the mail from customs and not busted. Well, keep that shit up and they will probably start knocking on your door.

"Domestic is safer than overseas"... yea, keep that shit up too and the fucking domestic parcels will be exrayed just like the overseas. They WILL kick your fucking door down if it is in the states. It will probably be put in the hands of the Postal Inspectors and local cops.

Thats right, keep bragging about your orders. Keep asking how to smuggle shit back into the states, that will just keep the cops one up on us.

WE are going to be the ones to bring our fun to an end. I guarentee in 5+ years we will be forced to buy from the local guys that sell 10ml deca vials for 200-250 bucks etc etc.

Personally I think there should be a rule on the board to not talk of obtaining anything illegal. Don't just delete the source post, delete the post like "waiting for domestic goods" and "is domestic safer" "Customs letter sent, haha fuck you goverment"

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"It's a good day to be alive, sir, It's a good day to be alive he said..."

think that subject matter should be better regulated. That's my main point.

We need to do this now and not just say we will. This is so important!!!!!!

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" That which does not kill me, will make me stronger"

This is heads up time... please

1. Would they really kick down your door for personal use possesion of AAS?

2. What priority do you think AAS gets on the DEA 'hit list?'

This board should be strickly for exchanging educational ideas (cycles, training, etc), and the occasional off topic post.

Just my .02

Most of the stuff around here is pretty transparent. I agree that some things should be handled privately...without question. However, I have also seen alot of very open dialog from people who should know better.

Also, the interest and the manpower to watch people who talk on a board just isn't there.

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"If you believe in yourself & have dedication & pride, and never quit, you'll be a winner. The price of victory is high, but so are the rewards."
-Paul "Bear" Bryant, Alabama Crimson Tide

But from the article i read and some of the info in certain TV specials, it looks as though they are going to start to monitor the various message boards out there. When they say CHAT ROOMS they don't just me AOL bullshit, they meen message BOARDS mainly.

If we don't make a fucking ass of ourselves and post all this junk that i reffered to above maybe they will leave us the hell alone.

Now as for the other boards, they are fucked. Open soarce posting etc etc. They will screw us all. Give it 5 years and see what happens.

We would be pretty damn naive to think that steroid use and importation is not at least some form of priority for the DEA and other Agencies.

I dont think its smart at all for people to talk about how to traffic things in cause that in turn does illicit illegal activity and those posts I will start editing.

Now although what we do with this board is not against the law (if that was the case the high times website would be banned) there is a very real need to be careful.

I dont think however that the cops are going to come kicking my door down to bust me for a few bottles of aratest and the like. That would be comparative to them busting some guys door down to nab his quarter bag of weed and trying to shake him for the local dealer.

Bump,
WCP

- As for getting one's door kicked down, that depends. In Canada, with regard to gear, buying, selling, importing, exporting, faking a prescription for, etc. etc. ... are all illegal. However, simple possession IS NOT ILLEGAL. Of course this is stupid, since you cannot HAVE gear without BUYING gear. But whatever.

You show me one person who has ever been convicted in Canada for having gear inside his house. Unless it's a huge stash enough for trafficking purposes, not only is simple possession of gear not a major crime, IT IS NOT ILLEGAL AT ALL.

(There have been very few steroid-related drug busts in Canada. One notable one was actually a steroid SCAM where these dudes from Montreal (even advertising in Sports Illustrated!! to get leads to whom they could send more advertising) made over $100,000 scamming people for money and then not sending any gear. Damn right, that should be illegal. They went to jail.)

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I know the situation is different in the US legally speaking, and your "drug war" is at a higher rev than anywhere else. But honestly, the major risk is at the point of accepting the package or opening the package, is it not? Once you've got the stuff in your possession, you really don't have to worry.

I believe they are focused on hard drugs and ecstasy. This must be why all my supplements shipments get opened up. And then all they find is creatine and whey powder.

The police do not want to bother with steroids for the most part. Pro athletes and cops are on the stuff, and everyone knows it. Venus Williams is.

The bottom line is, don't flaunt it, be safe, don't piss them off.

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yea, keep that shit up too and the fucking domestic parcels will be exrayed just like the overseas.

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Although I agree with your post, the odds that the USPS scans millions and millions of packages every day will never happen, this will slow the mail system down at an unbelievable rate, priority will become 7-8 days.

Now that everyone is buying off the internet, domestic packages are being sent at a ridiculous rate and there will only be more with this internet generation.

but yea, people need to keep their mouth shut about a lot of their shit.

Jarabbit, i guess you forgot that steroids is a Schedule 3 Narcotic.

1) The head of the DEA is on record saying that steroids are not on their priority list. With cocaine and weed coming into the US in record amounts, they have to prioritize.

2) When I got into this game along time ago, I found sources within 4 weeks. How did anyone know I wasn't a federal agent? If you think they don't have a list of every source, then I think you are naive.

3) Many sources overseas sell from countries where it is legal to possess gear. The only way to block them is to have that country's customs be on the lookout for outgoing packages, and it is hard to get many of these countries to spend money on a "USA" problem.

4) About shipping/smuggling methods: COME ON! Three of my friends are cops. They know every hiding place in a house possible. You think customs isn't aware of all the mailing tricks? Or smuggling tricks? Sure, it increases your odds, but they are aware of them. I bet they love when they see posts saying shit like "use carbon paper", since such myths cause people to get careless and think they cannot get caught.

5) If you don't want to post anything that endangers you, we should eliminate the entire "Anabolics" area. For example, I can pick any user. In one post three months ago, he says he is 19. Then in another list called 'Where you bros from', the guy states in California. Then I found out he bounces at a bar in town X. Then the guy lists a cycle that he just got. Gee, looks like a pretty nice trail, doesn't it? You think law enforcement cannot pay three college kids $10/hour to just compile this kind of info?

I'm all for being safe, but every three months or so (and I mean EVERY time), a panic sweeps through the boards. An unlucky bro or two fall, and then things are back to normal. Be careful, but keep things in perspective...

I COULD be that in five years all this open source posting is going to look like the "good old days."

But is it going to stop? I don't think so. And it is going to put a hell of a strain on government resources. Just look at how the Internet has grown in the last 2 - 3 years.

My guess. We'll probably see more newsworthy busts of serious players in the biz. But who does the government really want to go after:

1. Pedophiles, narcotics dealers, gun smugglers, etc., or

2. AS users who generally are educated people, who have families and mortgages and take their kids to the soccer games, and who lead generally healthy and productive lifestyles and pay their taxes on time?

Dexter
a.k.a. Titus Andronicus

It reminds me of when I was in the U.S. Virgin Islands, as part of a contingency mission following Hurricane Hugo.

They let all the prisoners out, because the hurricane was so bad. Then they had to round them all back up again, so they sent in a large team of U.S. Marshalls.

I was all natural then. But, sheesh, I'd never seen such a group of huge guys before in my life!

Now, I understand that they were hardly "all natural."

Dexter
a.k.a. Titus Andronicus

It is not cost effective for them to run down every package that is snagged in customs. And if you think the US mail is going to start to x-ray every package you are high. Do you know what that would do to our mail system? The costs, the manpower, the efficiency. Go to my post office at lunch and see how long you have to wait in line already to get your package. They move millions of packages in this country.

It would be so easy for any agent to come on here hang around (some already are) make good friends, gain confidence get info and then bust. It doesnt happen like that for reasons. They have much more important things to do than bust some small time user who is in possesion of 30 amps. Do you know how much time that will take them, not to mention the cost involved.

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Originally posted by stalker:
Reality check, Part II

"...I can pick any user. In one post three months ago, he says he is 19. Then in another list called 'Where you bros from', the guy states in California. Then I found out he bounces at a bar in town X. Then the guy lists a cycle that he just got. Gee, looks like a pretty nice trail, doesn't it? You think law enforcement cannot pay three college kids $10/hour to just compile this kind of info?

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Members should not ignore the importance of the above statement. The concept of culling the archives to "profile" individuals is not uncommon and due to ignorance (and in many cases pure stupidity) is a very simple task. To be honest, I do this occasionally. Not in the context of "nailing" somebody but to validate my suspicion that a poster is simply "full of shit." When I note a username that I believe is lying and/or bullshitting the board I'll spend some time to find an inconsistent posting history to prove my suspicion. Once I prove it to myself I simply mentally add that individual to my "ignore" list. As an aside, it's pretty funny when I know someone is a fraud and I see others jumping on their threads and treating these fucks as legitimate board participants, but that's another thread. What I'm driving at is the archives, combined with carelessness can be "used" very easily.

I'll provide a short version of a lengthy thread I posted about 4-5 months ago on another board to help remind good bros to be cautious (some of you may recall this and I want to stress that enough time has passed that I will not be incriminating anyone).

Awhile back, many people were posting pics of their gear on the board. I noted one person that was being very careless, sure enough they posted a pic with a reasonably large amount of gear and were "bragging" about it etc... Within 5 minutes (no exaggeration) I was able to log on to the server where he hosted the pic (university web server), without much effort log into the "public" student Database and I had the guy's name, number, address, you name it! I sent him a Hushmail with what I had found in the hope's that he would get his head out of his ass and THINK! I did not do this to be an dick or freak the guy out (it did!). I did not want the guy's post sitting in the archives with that kind of trail (he deleted it).

I'm not trying to promote paranoia, I'm just telling you to THINK!

Oh yeah, for you bullshitter's out there, you are easy to ID - heh heh.