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zeke21

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posted January 23, 2001 03:51 PM

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could someone tell me what these are.


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courthouse

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posted January 23, 2001 04:15 PM

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ara-test is 50mg of Testosterone propionate and 200 mg of Testosterone entantathe per ml. I'm not sure what the phenyl prop is.


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chillin408

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posted January 23, 2001 04:17 PM

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phenylpropanolamine?


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lawnsaver

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posted January 23, 2001 04:30 PM

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Phenyl prop is a test ester that has a half life of 1 day. You can find 60mgs in Sust and onma.

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GymRatSD

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posted January 23, 2001 04:45 PM

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OK... time to clarify things.

First, there are three types of Ara-Test.

The 2500: 50 mg/ml testosterone propionate, 200 mg/ml testosterone enanthate.

The 500: 50 mg/ml testosterone propionate ONLY.

The 250: 25 mg/ml testosterone propionate ONLY (in essence, useless).

Second, I'm sure you're referring to phenylpropionate, which is an ester usually attached to testosterone that is commonly found in Sustanon blends (Omnadren also). The esters in the Sustanon blends have a unique time-release pattern. Phenylpropionate is the second one that the body uses (it's the second shortest ester in Sustanon). It usually runs it's course in three to five days after injection (not one day. That is simply propionate.)


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DRRman

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posted January 23, 2001 04:58 PM

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looks like gymrat nailed it, the phenylpropinate is a great drug on its own also!!


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lawnsaver

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posted January 23, 2001 05:53 PM

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I have to disagree. Prop has a half life of 3 days and phenyl prop has a half life of 1 day. go to www.come.to/roidcalc and it shows the test half lifes

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GymRatSD

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posted January 23, 2001 05:59 PM

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Then that calculator is wrong. There is no possible biological way that phenylpropionate can have a shorter "half-life" (a term that is never used correctly) than propionate. Propionate is a single chain, three carbons long. Phenylpropionate is that same three carbon chain, with a phenyl group attached -- that's a six carbon ring! In general, the shorter the ester (propionate), the faster acting it is.


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lawnsaver

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posted January 23, 2001 06:43 PM

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I will take your word, That was the only place where I saw halflives. Were there any other ones that were wrong?

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GymRatSD

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posted January 23, 2001 07:01 PM

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Looks like there are many mistakes on the calculator (not including the spelling error of "enanthate"). For example, isocaproate does not have the same half-life as decanoate, enanthate, or cypionate.


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