I have just started a new cycle it looks like this.

I do the Testoviron in 3 doses per week with the Primo.

p/d = per day
p/w = per week

Week Dbol Testoviron Primo.
1 30mg p/d 750mg p/w 300mg p/w
2 30mg p/d 750mg p/w 300mg p/w
3 30mg p/d 750mg p/w 300mg p/w
4 30mg p/d 750mg p/w 300mg p/w
5 - 750mg p/w 300mg p/w
6 - 750mg p/w 300mg p/w
7 - 500mg p/w 400mg p/w
8 - 500mg p/w 400mg p/w

For the nest few weeks I will throw in some Winnie, Clen and I guess clomid and taper down the Test to 250mg per week. The cycle should run for 16 weeks. The first 8 weeks is basically the bulking up part.

Any opinions good or bad I'd be glad to hear!

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After a bulking cycle your body naturally wants to reject the extra muscle, so you are inviting muscle loss with a cutting regime right after bulking.

Do 2 different cycles with 4 weeks of rest in betwen, use the clen for the first 2 weeks of yor 4 weeks rest period.

To me your dosages are okay for bulking (although still high for my taste).

There is no point of using clen while you are on gear. Use it along with the clomid 14 days after you last test injection.

Maybe what I'll do is see what is happening after 8 weeks, and I may stop for a month then have a cutting cycle.

You reckon that I should not use clen with any gear (such as winny, etc).

On another note, the reason I am not using Deca is that I am finding Primo more effective. I used A LOT of Deca on my last cycle and it does'nt seem to work so well for me now.

Deca requires a lot of protein to see the magic. Also some people do not respond well to certain compounds. primo is great im my opinion so use it if it works for you. You will have decent gains but no water from the primo.