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  DOES ARIMIDEX HINDER GAINS LIKE NOLVIDEX?

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ORGANON CANON

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posted January 23, 2001 10:43 AM

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I was going to get some arimidex for my upcoming cycle but was unsure if it will hinder gains like nolvidex. I have 70, 20mg tabs of nolvidex but don't really want to use them because of their effect on gains. I will be doing this cycle:

weeks 1-8: 500mg sust
weeks 1-6: d-bol (30mg, 30mg, 25mg, 25mg, 20mg, 15mg)
weeks 1-8: primobolin @ 400mg
I also have clomid for after!

I would like to try arimidex because I am a bit sensitive to gyno, but I don't want to kill my gains. If I should take it, what would be a good dosage?

Thanks for the help in advance!


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hayesjones

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posted January 23, 2001 10:58 AM

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not 100% but nova competes with your receptor cites against estrogen leaving the sites unavailable to your gear.
Arimidex actually wipes the estrogen out before it hits the sites.


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ORGANON CANON

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posted January 23, 2001 11:27 AM

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BUMP, could I get a bit more info. Is it really worth the money?


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rainhorn

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posted January 23, 2001 11:36 AM

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the only gains the arimidex hinder are the water based one since it preventing the test from aromatizing into estrogen that help you to retain water.

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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted January 23, 2001 11:40 AM

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Arimidex blocks the enzyme aromitase,which binds to testosterone and converts it to estrogen.The more of this enzyme that is blocked,the more circulating test you will have in your system.Arimidex actually leads to a 50+% INCREASE in serum testosterone levels.Yes,it's worth the money...


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PerfectRep

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posted January 23, 2001 11:45 AM

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Arimidex is worth the money, but you may not need much of anything for that cycle. If you're really sensitive then get the arimidex, if you're iffy just keep the nolvadex.


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rainhorn

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posted January 23, 2001 11:52 AM

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definatly worth the money


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E2

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posted January 23, 2001 12:00 PM

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Actually the aromatase enzyme is also responsable for converting androstenedione into estrogen as well. Now we all know that androstenedione is converted into both test and est, if you eliminate (or at least diminish) the est part of the reaction that leaves more reagent (androstenedione) to be converted into test. hence higher test levels.

Arimidex is hands down my favorite drug.

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DRRman

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posted January 23, 2001 12:25 PM

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i agree with E2, arimidex is gotta be the best drug ever. Has really made my like my high test cycles even more then before


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ORGANON CANON

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posted January 23, 2001 01:36 PM

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When should I start using it, and how much should I use? Also, will I still need the nolvidex?


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2Thick

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posted January 23, 2001 01:40 PM

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Since estrogen is essential to many basic functions of growth (and Arimidex blocks most estro production), I would not use it unless you are using VERY high dosages or if you are highly sensitive to gyno...etc.

Most peple are better off with a combo of proviron and nolvadex. It works almost as well as arimidex.


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Vanilla Gorilla

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posted January 23, 2001 01:41 PM

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Novaldex does not compete for the estrogen site like proviron.


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roobie

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posted January 23, 2001 01:47 PM

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Is arimidex the same as nolva in terms of legality?

Roobie.


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300Kleen the newbie!

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posted January 23, 2001 01:49 PM

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I'll have to agree with 2Thick.

Estrogen is a very important hormone, which should not be disregarded. It is essential for healthy maintenance of bone and joint strength.

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2Thick

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posted January 23, 2001 01:49 PM

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They both require a script. They are not illegal to posess.


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ORGANON CANON

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posted January 23, 2001 01:56 PM

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So if I decide to use it should I up the sust to 1000mg/week or not use it at all. I have nolvadex, and can get proviron but I heard that arimidex is the way to go. Is there a way I can take it so I still get a bit of estrogen, I know I need a bit of bloat to help with gains. I just want to be sure that I should use it before I spend that much more money on it. If I decide to go with 1000mg a week of sust, how much arimidex? I was thinking of 1 tab eod.

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posted January 23, 2001 02:25 PM

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Krusher

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posted January 23, 2001 02:41 PM

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For a gram of test weekly, 1 arimidex eod is perfect.


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ORGANON CANON

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posted January 23, 2001 03:08 PM

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So if I go with 1 tab eod, and take 1000mg weekly of test, along with d-bol and primo should this eliminate the possiblity of gyno and lower the acne? Or should I also take the nolvi, or save that unless it is needed?


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ORGANON CANON

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posted January 23, 2001 05:05 PM

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bump


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DRRman

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posted January 23, 2001 05:52 PM

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i agree with 2thick, you don't want to block all your estrogen, but you dont' want all that is there from a high test cycle. organon, im using 1650mgs test per week right now and am using 1\4mg of arimidex EOD and am having phenomenal results!! 1 tab EOD is way too much in my oppinion


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