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 2nd Cycle Critique............everyone please
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
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Week-EQ--HGH---Dbol--Sust--Winny--Clomid-HCG- 1----400-15iu--25/d--500----------50eod------ 2----400-15iu--25/d--500----------50eod------ 3----400-15iu--25/d--500----------50eod------ 4----400-15iu--25/d--500----------50eod------ 5----400-15iu--25/d--500----------50eod------ 6----400-15iu--------500---50/d---50eod------ 7----400-15iu--------500---50/d---50eod------ 8----400-15iu--------500---50/d---50eod------ 9----400-15iu--------------50/d---50eod------ 10---400-15iu--------------50/d----100/d-5000 11-------15iu--------------50/d----100/d-5000 12-------15iu--------------50/d----50/d--5000 HGH Serostim @ 3IU per day for 5 days a week This is cycle 2, last was durateston/primo depot/winny. I'm hoping for 20 more lbs but I'm concerned about the level of bloat being to noticable (for work reasons) during the test/dbol phase. All input much appreciated! ------------------ [This message has been edited by beefmaster (edited January 22, 2001).] [This message has been edited by beefmaster (edited January 22, 2001).] [This message has been edited by beefmaster (edited January 22, 2001).]     | ||
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Moderator 
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You will be bloated for most of the cycle. Why aren't you using T3 and Insulin with the GH. The GH is pretty much wasted without the other two compounds. The Clomid EOD is not necessary and will not help with the bloat. Otherwise, it looks like a big, expensive and taxing cycle. I would simplify things but if you want to do it then good luck. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 180 |
I'm all ears 2 thick, T3 I don't mind, insulin kind of scares my newbie ass.........LOL. Would you split up the sust & dbol another way? How about running the EQ all the way to the end? I did the clomid 50 eod last cycle and it seemed to keep my nuts from going south so I thought I'd do it again. Keep the input coming. | ||
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Moderator
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If you are wary of slin then stay away from it. The GH by itself will just add a little lean muscle and help reduce bodyfat. It is not bad but if you want to blow up then slin and T3 are necessary. If you are using the Clomid to avoid nut shrinkage just for superficial reasons then go ahead but it does not give any advantage when it comes to keeping gains at the end. To reduce bloat, I would taper the D-bol down from like this: 25-25-25-20-15 The sust is fine and so is the winny. The HCG is a good idea and I would also taper the EQ like this for 12 weeks: 300 or you could do it for 10 weeks with the 300 at the beginning and at the end. For reduced bloat the proviron is a great idea since it inhibits estro production. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
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save the eq winny and dbol for another cycle. Do sust/gh/insulin/t3. That will transform your body. Take 8 weeks off and hit the eq/dbol/winny. You will make better gains on the 2 then with it all at once. As for the insulin 10 to 13ius a day is nithing to worry about. While on the gh you will want to eat everything. The insulin is only dangeous when you dont get enough carbs after the shot. When on the gh dont stop eating, you will be able to metabolize everything. ------------------ "Catch a man a fish, he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish, and he eats for a lifetime." | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 180 |
Awsome input, thanks bro's. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 180 |
Lawnsaver, Could you give me a typical injection schedule for gh with insulin? Is 3iu per day enough for gh with 10iu of insulin? And approximately how many carbs would I need to eat with the insulin to stay out of trouble and would they be simple or complex or does it matter. I'm gonna take your advice and break it into two cycles, thanks ahead of time. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 180 |
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 180 |
OK, I'm gonns save the GH for another cycle & have redone this a tad. I kept the winny to try & lean out and harden up some at the end. OK, lemme have it. Week-EQ--Dbol--Sust--Winny--Clomid-HCG------- [This message has been edited by beefmaster (edited January 23, 2001).] | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 125 |
Why pyrimid the Dbol? Take the HCG in the middle of your cycle when your nuts shut down. They will do very little to maintain gains at the end, anyway. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 180 |
I'm pyramiding the dbol because 2thick above recommended a taper & I have never done dbol so I thought i'd taper on & off. As for HCG I can say from personal use that it does help in the end. As for doing it in the middle thats not a bad idea either. Any moree input guys? ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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The cycle looks good i would not taper dbol like that start heavy and taper down. Dbol will hit fast and hard than taper your body off of it...Other than that it looks like a solid cycle.. |
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posted January 22, 2001 11:21 PM
