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 To all the bros who think its "party time" while doing your gear.
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Elite Bodybuilder 
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I still cant believe how many bros (kids actually) think that steroids are just another "supplement" you take and that they just happen to be illegal. So what do some of you guys do? You go out and get high on rec. drugs without giving any thought to the combined effect of steroids and those drugs in your body. Steroids alone can cause a myriad of problems if not taken correctly and sometimes they cause problems when everything is perfect. The question is why risk your cycle, your body, and your mind by doing other drugs while on a steroid cycle? Much education is needed before someone chooses to take steroids, much restraint is needed while taking steroids. ------------------     | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 15 |
I might be new to the board but I've been around the iron game for a while. Nothing is more true Superdave.
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Cool Novice
Posts: 27 |
Great post man. While on a cycle everything should revolve around your training. Personally I stay away from all impurities while on a cycle to maximize my gains. If you dont you might as well be flushing the juice down the toilet... GORB I THINK, THEREFORE, I LIFT... | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 290 |
bump...good post ------------------ | ||
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Moderator 
Posts: 1588 |
The human corpus is a vast array of biochemical interactions. Adding and substracting various chemicals is part of the fun of human biochemistry. My point being is that there is nothing wrong with adding other "supplements" (including recreational drugs) so long as you understand the possible implications and the mechanism by which they affect changes in your biochemisty. Ie.. Know how to mix and match in a way that minimizes adverse systemic effects.(preferrably to the point of nullity) However, that being said, most people lack the necessary understanding to engage in such experimentation. Playing with one's biochemisty without the requisite knowledge can lead to severe adverse effects. it comes down to this- knowledge is power- without such knowledge you should not feel empowered to play mad scientist. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 942 |
A short synopses of Mac's post: If you're dumb, don't do drugs! | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 43 |
You're right superdave, it is all about restraint. It's super hard to say no sometimes, but why put forth the effort to do a cycle and then just fuck it up? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 143 |
Although not "pro" rec drugs, live and let live I say. To each their own and if it aint hurting you, I don't see a problem with it. IronMike Ps - you'd be extremely surprised if you knew what a lot of the pros got up to | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 45 |
No doubt Superdave. If your serious enough about your body to do steroids, drugs shouldnt even cross your mind. You should be modivated enough to get all the gains u can out of a cycle and not let anything fuck it up. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 630 |
I agree 100% with this post. I hate it when someone asks if it's ok to get drunk or which drug would be the "safest" to use while on AS. If you can't stop using recreational drugs for 8 weeks either you have a habit or you have no discipline. You have no buisness using steriods if you lack this discipline. How can you train hard if you're hung over from the last night? Most people that ask this question are looking for an excuse to get fucked up. Almost no one stops at one beer or one drink. And don't tell me that you have to give up your life either. If drinking is a part of your life and you can't have fun without it you have a problem and shouldn't be using AS... | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 332 |
true dat E | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 54 |
Bump,good post superdave. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 251 |
The fact that someone may think that doing steroids is ok but putting something else other then that in your body is defeating the purpose is silly! Arnold built his body while also doing rec. drugs--- bodybuilders drugs of choice---steroids-hgh-insulin-Pain killers(pills and injection)speed-coke-ghb-xtc-DNP-Herb-did I mention pain killers-Zanies-valuim-ephedrine-I know of a guy in the national level that has thrown down anywhere between 10-60 tabs of vikes a day--- | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 637 |
that was one of the best post i ever seen at this board...bump it up ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 45 |
Thanks for a good post Superdave. On my previous/first cycle, I was stupid enough to get drunk 1-2 times/week... my gains suffered, and I no doubt put more strain on my body than it would have had otherwise. What you wrote makes sense, and I'll definitely be smarter for my next cycle. BUMP. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 630 |
Wombat: The excuse "Arnold did it, it must be ok" is really weak. It backs up nothing. It's kind of like when you were a kid and said "But mom, billy's doing it too". And the guy that "threw down" 10-60 vikes a day is a fucking addict! We're looking for long term health here. AS are reasonably safe. But adding in other stuff on top of an already stressed system is looking for trouble... | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 105 |
ive done both partied and not partied. while it was fun the results of not drinking while i was on were far better. good post! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 269 |
I think light rec use is fine-tomo | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 96 |
Macrophage said it 100% correct. Although many of them are, I disagree that "ALL" recreational drugs are harmful while on a cycle. If used correctly, certain recreational drugs can actually be beneficial to the body while on. Maybe not the most healthy, but I have found that speedy drugs like mdma help keep the unwanted fat off while I am bulking. Also, while on a cycle GHB has given me great results. It means the difference between 4 hrs sleep per night and 8 hrs REM sleep per night, for me. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 566 |
Stay away from the drinks if you don't want to hinder your gains. ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 15 |
Excellant post!!! The reason you do gear is to get huge. So, why not make the most of it and eat, sleep and live training. Those that don't have the luxury of having a steady supply of gear should be especially concerned with making the most of it when you get it. To me, the gains are far more worth while than feeling like shit from partying too much. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 251 |
Daeo-No where on my post did i say Arnold uses rec. drugs so it must be ok.---Your right the guy I mentioned is an addict---Their are quite afew addicts in the Pro-ranks -national level and even state level but you will find more in just the bodybuilding scene----This post isnt about long term health-----These pro bodybuilders who make a living lifting weights that dont just do 8 week silly little cycles and do rec. drugs ---you say have no reason taking AS----That doesnt make sense to me---These guys have more of a reason in my book to use them(its where their pay check comes from)then you ever will---unless I misjudged you and you are making your living from lifting weights-then I apologize! But to the everyday guy that just wants his body bigger--what you are saying is, its ok to use AS to get bigger but it pisses me off if you are going to use some other kind of drug. Again that just makes on sense at all. A person is either drug free or not---your right it probably will put more stress on your body doing rec. drugs and AS but to be pissed off about someone else doing this--I think you will have the most stress running through your body just on the fact that it bothers you what other people put in their bodies--- | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 251 |
Their are millions of people using steroids in the world today! Most are using them for non-competitive reasons other then for trying to give their body a better look. Thank god their is that many and I hope more and more will use for it will keep prices down and become more acceptive in the main stream. These same people using have the same pressures in life of all the other people not using. You dont have to have some sort of disipline to use---Hell most of the people that I know at the gym that use ---look like shit ---cant diet to save their lifes ---bragg about how much weight they just put on or how much more their bench went up. You hear it in here all the time--a guy over 10% bodyfat who is taken all this gear and posting how much weight he or she gained----thats healthy --give me a break---I'll take a guy that is under 10% bodyfat using and making gains that can go out with non -lifters and throw back a six pack or a roll or two maybe some G, and have a good time a couple times a month regardless if he is on or not-----Then someone who goes out and orders water all ninght and puts down other people for what they are doing! to each his own | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 612 |
I agree that drinking effects one's gains or fat loss on a cycle but some of us stay on for longer than 8 weeks. Some of us are also young and like to party so the occasional night of debauchery, while less than optimal, is ok by me. As long as I am not on a 17aa steroid I allow myself a couple of nights a month to throw back a few. My workouts suffer the next day but having a life is more important to me than the one or two pounds more I might have gained by giving up those few nights out on the town. Unless you are at an elite level of athletics or stepping on stage to try and earn your pro card then it really isn't a very big deal if you gain 20 or 23 lbs on your next cycle. If you think about it, you probably shouldn't be using steroids anyways unless you are an elite athlete or have a legitimate medical need so if you are really that concerned about your health then quit all drugs, including steroids. giantset ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 765 |
Besides, I dont have the damn cash to be blowing cycles down the toilet because of other drug use. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 630 |
quote: Hmmm... [This message has been edited by Daeo (edited January 22, 2001).] | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 630 |
I agree..Just look at how muscular and ripped all those alchoholics and crackheads are..  Seriously though, to each his own. If you feel like getting fucked up while on your cycle so be it. For me, I feel like I'm missing nothing by not getting drunk or high. I know I will look alot better and feel alot better in the long run also. I feel sorry for those who have to rely on drugs for a good time though... | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 96 |
This is getting out of hand. There is absolutely no reason that a responsible, educated person can't do roids and recreational drugs and still get good results while enjoying both. Obviously if yer gonna whack down a 6er of beer every night while on a cycle, you are wasting a lot of gear. However, if you occasionally use a drug responsibly while on a cycle, that will NOT guarentee that your wasting the juice. As was said before, its a matter of knowing your biochemistry. Some rec drugs actually make yer cycles more effective. G for example, if used responsibly will increase the benefits for almost anyone that has trouble falling asleep at nights. Instant stage 4 sleep is a great asset to any cycle, the buzz from the G is just a little extra bonus. | ||
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Guru
Posts: 4807 |
NEXT WEEK ON SUPERDAVES AFTER SCHOOL SPEACIAL.............DON'T DRINK AFTER YOUR FREINDS!!!!COLDS CAN KILL!!! I agree with you. why even fuck around with it? ------------------
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 95 |
quote: I'm with Wombat ------------------ | ||
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Guru
Posts: 4807 |
Thinking about again. We all walk different paths. Your choice to make. To each his own | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 630 |
Damn I hate replying, but I can't stop!! LOL. I live in a party town I guess and I really don't know any "responsible" rec drug users. Almost everyone I know that uses rec drugs does it more than once a week. More like 2-3 times a week. I hold no real hostility against these people as many of you think I do. One friend of mine is a bartender and uses AS. He also drinks, uses g, rolls, etc..He now has trouble getting to sleep because of GHB. My point is most people don't have enough self control to monitor how far they should go... |
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posted January 21, 2001 06:26 PM