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wanainpress

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posted January 21, 2001 04:05 PM

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im doing a cycle of dbol and sust. is it cool to take cell tech during my cycle? or would it be a waste of money?


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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted January 21, 2001 04:09 PM

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Here's an old post of mine that may be of help in making a decision.Hey fellas.Just dug up an interesting read out of one of my old Ironman mags.The following excerpts are providided by the notorious Michael Gundill(a.k.a. Dharkam)....Although creatine does have testosterone-like effects,it doesn't act as a steroid hormone.Instead,it's a mediator of some of the androgens' anabolic effects.In fact,steroid users get far more out of their cycles if they take in massive amounts of creatine along with the drugs.Androgens are among the hormones that can force the entry of creatine into muscle cells.While there's a clear relationship between muscle strength gains and increases in muscle creatine stores,unfortunately,the relationship is not as obvious when it comes to increases in muscle mass.Animal-based studies have shown that the muscles of untrained rats take up as much creatine as the muscles of trained rats,but the ANABOLIC effects of creatine are only obvious in trained rats.Therefore,training increases the muscles sensitivity to the anabolic actions of creatine.(Although it's not related to this article,the study also demonstrated that the anabolic effects of creatine are DIRECT,and not mediated by waterretention.In fact,in the 1970s American and Russian studies pointed out a DIRECT anabolic effect of creatine on muscle cells.)Testosterone increases the muscles'sensitivity to the anabolic properties of creatine in addition to enhancing the creatine buildup in muscle fibers.It's also obvious that part of the strength gains people experience while on steroids are mediated by an increase in muscle creatine stores.An interesting discovery A/S users have made is that they should dramatically increase their creatine intake during a cycle to boost the potency of the steroids.Thanks to creatine,people can build more muscle mass with fewer drugs.Anecdotal evidence from A/S users points out that it takes at least 10-15 grams(maintenance)of creatine a day to visibly enhance the the anabolic potency of a steroid stack.There are probably good reasons for the increased creatine requirement when androgen levels are high.As mentioned above,steroids increase the muscle uptake of creatine,and if the muscles are ready to accept more creatine,why not give it to them?I also think that even though steroids enhance creatine synthesis,they may increase creatine degradation as well-so more creatine is used up every day.That could be due to an increase in muscle creatine turnover and also the fact that an elevated muscle protein synthesis rate will likely consume creatine at a faster rate.Other reasons for a higher creatine requirement may be indirect.Because the muscles of drug users are stronger and receive more training,they may waste greater amounts of creatine during training.Once inside the muscle,creatine provides not only an anabolic effect,but also a rapidly mobilized source of fuel.Muscle protein synthesis is a process that wastes great amounts of energy.Anabolism is an ATP-dependent process,which means that it's essential for protein synthesis.If the cellular level of ATP is reduced even a little,IT STOPS ANABOLISM.So even if you can increase the testosterone content of your muscles,nothing will happen if your ATP level is low.Creatine supports anabolism by providing energy to the muscle...Well fellas,it looks like it might be a good idea to stock up on creatine when you're grabbing your protein powder for those bulking cycles,hehheh....Huck


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wanainpress

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posted January 21, 2001 04:34 PM

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anyone else?


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Motorhed

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posted January 21, 2001 04:35 PM

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Allow me to answer....CELL-TECH SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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JUICESEEKER

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posted January 21, 2001 04:38 PM

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MUSCLE TECH IS A SCAM! PERIOD! THEIR PRODUCTS ARE NOT MORE EFFECTIVE THAN OTHER COMPANIES.


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wanainpress

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posted January 21, 2001 04:49 PM

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what about nitro tech?


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wanainpress

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posted January 22, 2001 09:25 PM

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i got some cell tech today. i think it will go well with my sust and dbol


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posted January 22, 2001 09:30 PM

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If i were you i would use it while coming off your cycle. Cell tec is a good product and there are many other good products. Cell tec just pushes there adds to the limits.


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wanainpress

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posted January 22, 2001 09:32 PM

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your sopose to use it for 8 weeks so by the time i am finishing up i will still be using the cell tech. it burns ur throat when u drink it. is it sopose to?


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posted January 22, 2001 09:33 PM

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Awesome post huck, I read it and went and started hitting my phosphagen for the rest of this cycle.

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CasperCasper

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posted January 22, 2001 09:37 PM

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i put on 18lbs in two months off sus and dball with cell tech . if it burns then mix it with 12oz of h2o .personally i think it was mostly water retention and would not waist my $ on any muscle tech products . just my 2 cents .


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wanainpress

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posted January 22, 2001 09:42 PM

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how much of that 18lbs did you keep?


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JuanDeLaCruz

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posted January 22, 2001 11:27 PM

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The burning in your throat is from the Alpha Lipoic Acid.

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2Thick

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posted January 22, 2001 11:46 PM

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Use protein, l-glutamine, multi-vitamins, and creatine, c'est tu!


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finallygotlayed

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posted January 22, 2001 11:56 PM

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you've got cell tech!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!what do you need the juice for??????????

seriously, cellt tech rocks

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THE SMACK

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posted January 23, 2001 12:51 AM

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so basically its ok to take cell tech on the juice.. im on deca.. im taking some dbol after the 4th week so u think i could take some before i start taking to dbol i plan on taking some after to keep all the gains i can.. someone help explain this one more time for me if u could. how many times a day should i take it? 1-3 well someone help thanks bros

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BigWh1tey

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posted January 23, 2001 01:11 AM

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dude .. your gains are going to be OUT OF FUCKING CONTROL !!!! women will want you , men will fear you . No more sand kicked in your face . CELL TECH ROCKS !!!!

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posted January 23, 2001 01:15 AM

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def doing creatine while on my cycle...my friends have nothing but good to say from its use while on


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WC

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posted January 23, 2001 02:23 AM

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creatine is good bros. I only do it at or around the "loading" dose when using it however. It also goes well with slin/hgh/t3.


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