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THeMaCHinE

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From:The Outer Boundaries Of The Ninth Circle
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posted January 19, 2001 03:54 PM

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originally posted by macrophage69alpha

1. Why do so many people use large gauge needles to inject?
this is totally unecessary- almost anything will go through a 25g needle- yet how often, I hear people using 21g or even 20g(cannons). The only reason that I bring this up is that scar tissue can become a big issue with frequent and/or long term use- USE SMALL GAUGE whenever possible- which is all the time- if you are injecting suspension heat it up- it is often granular and if not heated will only go through a large gauge pin. heating it up will cause solute to go into solution.

2. Why is it,or so it seems, that so few use drawing needles?

these puppies are cheap 4$ for a hundred. that way the needle you inject with is clean and sharp as can be. not only that you can use a 18g to draw- you can draw up anything with 18g in a matter of seconds. its sterile and makes everything easier.

3. why on earth does anyone re-use needles?

Ok, sometimes you run out, this should not happen, but if it does make sure to clean them with alcohol. other wise just order a bunch when you get them, they are pretty cheap and range from 12-28$ per 100 depending on gauge, source and manufacturer. Stock up on pins- dont risk infection for a 25 cent syringe. the doctors visit is going to cost you more than many boxes of pins.

4. injection volume- I often see people posting that they have done several one or two cc injections- heres a little breakdown that may suprise you:

glutes- can usually take 5cc per injection

quads- 2.5 to 3.5 cc considered safe range

delts 2-3 cc considered safe

calves- only if you want nerve damage- not advised

soviets+ eastern bloc atheletes did 10cc injections into glutes and quads- I dont recommend this but just goes to show the capacity.

Peace
BTW- scar tissue can limit muscle growth, contractions, flexibility and can result in loss of structural integrity making muscle tears more likely.

Heating of suspension solutions to get all of the solute to go into solution can be done with pan and water or in the microwave just be sure to not over heat- ie. do not boil your solution.
tips- if you are going to do it in the syringe- use microwave- out in a small tupperware bowl at an upward slant(so you dont lose any) stabilize- remove pin. nuke- for 4-5 seconds at a time until you get desired results- once you figure out total time you can just throw it in there for 12,15,19,23 etc.. this varies alot because of the wattage variance among microwaves. I would say that on average it take 15-25 sec on high.
if you are going to heat up in a multi use vial have everything ready so you can draw and inject before solution cools

DO NOT OVERHEAT
this may take some time and practice to get your technique down but it will make using suspensions much easier and stop you from getting "clogs" in your pins.


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Big Buck

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posted January 19, 2001 04:49 PM

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bump for the machine....good post. Fuck using a 20 gauge...OUCH!!!


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macrophage69alpha

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posted January 19, 2001 04:59 PM

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This looks familiar
Who could have written it?
I cant tell because no credit is given.....
If you are going to repost something you should give credit to the original author-
Which Was NOT YOU...

Peace

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THeMaCHinE

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posted January 19, 2001 05:03 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by macrophage69alpha:
This looks familiar
Who could have written it?
I cant tell because no credit is given.....
If you are going to repost something you should give credit to the original author-
Which Was NOT YOU...

Peace



I never claimed it was me. Which is why the title of the thread included the word REPOST

If I knew who orginally posted it, I would have given that info. However, this information came from a larger document of cut and pastes that I keep in a word format, not from searching the archives. In other words, I have a word file going that if I see something interesting, I cut and paste to. Sometimes I get the name in, sometimes I don't. Don't be so quick to assume shit.

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THeMaCHinE

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posted January 19, 2001 05:05 PM

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Oh, and MAC it's good to see you posting again. I was just wondering today where you've been.

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THeMaCHinE

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posted January 19, 2001 05:20 PM

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Well, I guess you're busy doing other things or don't want to reply. No skin off my dick.

My intention was to help alot of the new guys that I see around here with some good information that they probably haven't seen before.

I guess if I have good info, but no name I just shouldn't post it huh. Or maybe I should add a disclaimer, something to the effect "this is absolutely not mine, this is a cut and paste, please do not give me any credit for providing you with this info, I had nothing to do with it"

I've been around the boards alot longer than my registration date implies. Info is info and if I see something good I'm going to post it. If I have the name I will give the name. If I don't I won't. It's not like any of this is copyrighted screenplay material anyway.

Again, sorry for the confusion, I guess I just assumed everybody would appreciate the info and not worry about who gets credit for it. I'll try to be more clear in the future.

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macrophage69alpha

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posted January 19, 2001 05:37 PM

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I thinks perhaps you may have taken my criticism a little to personally- It is really not all that important- but others do take credit, whether intentionally or not, for reposts which can be confusing to some members- Plus it was my post, and since I have been away, it was a little disconcerting to see that the first post I looked at was one of my own. But no big deal- perhaps I should have made that clear- it was sort of a "hey where my credit" in a perhaps to sarcastic tone- apparantly Being in England for a month tends to make you a little too sarcastic, as well as out of shape(hard to find a good gym while vacationing.

Peace
MP

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THeMaCHinE

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posted January 19, 2001 05:44 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by macrophage69alpha:
I thinks perhaps you may have taken my criticism a little to personally- It is really not all that important- but others do take credit, whether intentionally or not, for reposts which can be confusing to some members- Plus it was my post, and since I have been away, it was a little disconcerting to see that the first post I looked at was one of my own. But no big deal- perhaps I should have made that clear- it was sort of a "hey where my credit" in a perhaps to sarcastic tone- apparantly Being in England for a month tends to make you a little too sarcastic, as well as out of shape(hard to find a good gym while vacationing.

Peace
MP


AHHH, now I understand better... lol! Good info MAC!!

I didn't have much luck with gyms in England either, but I still had a blast! (spent most of my time in London).

I'm particularly sensitive to the subject of plagarism/infringement as I'm a published author and photographer. I was in horror at the thought of being labeled a rip-off artist so I probably over-reacted. In retrospect, I could see how just saying repost might not be enough...

As Ranger would say "It's all good"

Hope you get back to where you want to be soon -- I'm looking forward to your future posts. I have a lot of respect for your knowledge in this venerable little corner of the world.

later,
MACHINE

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