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 Could this be a reason why Sus is better than Cyp...
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Cool Novice 
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many people including myself have had better resulsts with the Sust including myself, could it be becauas Sust is for human use, where most Enans an Cyps are vet products, this is just a guess, I'm no guru or anythign, but am wondering if t his could be the case, as many peopleseem to think human grade drugs are better than vet, any thoughts?     | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 322 |
There is also human grade Cyp and Enanth. Just as there is Vet sus. ------------------ [email protected] | ||
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Freak 
Posts: 1798 |
The most commonly used Test in American medicine is cyp. Upjohn Cyp. ------------------ | ||
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Novice 
Posts: 4 |
i would agree with the sustanon havin better results cause it is for human use. But on the other hand American cypionate (upjohn) is like rocket fuel. I grew the biggest ever on upjohn cyp, probably twice as big than when i took sust. But results do vary | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 57 |
I can't believe what i just read here, sust is way over fuckin rated!! How could it be better than cyp when cyp has a half life of 5-7 days and sus is like fuckin 3-4 months (ok weeks but months sound better since it never kicked in for me)? Cyp is much faster so the gains would come faster. I think it is just that some of you never tried cyp, hence the "vet cyp" wtf is that, man. it is human grade shit. whoever is doing or tried cyp knows what i am talking about. nothing beats cyp at a gram a week. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 147 |
Shawn I agree bro sust is shit and fucking painfull i love enathate cyp is basicly the same in the way it's made and works but it is different. Over sust I would chose cyp or enathate any day in fact enathate is always in my stack cos it is just so good a puttin on weight stack it with deca and you will grow like fuck same with cyp My next cycle will be 500mg enathate 500mg cyp and some deca but the cyp will be goin in every 3 days and the enathate every week. And what is this shit about vet product's i get all my stuff from europe and all my enathate and cyp is for human's and is very good quality and i have good gains off it. some of the cyp is 100mg per ml but still very good i had some french cyp in my last cycle and that was great. If you want my opinion sust is shit primo is shit two roid's i would not waste my cash on...! ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 57 |
lol i'm with you on this one man. Right now I just started my stack just monday the 15th. I'm using 1000mg deposteron (brazil cyp), 500mg ganabol, and 40mg bionabol. So far I didn't notice anything, it is only 4 days. but yes, i will never ever buy sus, i used this shit and gained like 5-10 pounds, i was also bloated, so it was water i suppose. i shoot mon wed fri, to get 1g cyp and 500mg ganabol, it is 20cc, and my cyp is the 100mg version so it is alot of shots, but 2 syringes mon wed fri (3 on fri) and this is what i will be doing. the cyp i will stop at week 6, and throw in prop at about 200mg eod from weeks 7-9 to finish up perfectly. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 83 |
Bump it up for TESTEX250-Cypionate from Spain ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 1356 |
Test is Test. it is the ester that causes different rates of release. If taking sust over 8 wks and cyp over 8 wks, by the end results should be the same. Sust will cause slightly slower rate of gains but less water initially. Dont forget if you take sust that you should continue eating shit loads for up to 3 weeks after last injection for best results due to its half life and thus test still being in your system. If you wanted to speeden up the reaction when using sust add a faster actin test ester in there for the first 2 weeks (cyp, enanthate) As for human grade and vet grade, there is no difference, it is like 99.99% pure as oppossed to 99.9% Peace
[This message has been edited by The_Iron_Game (edited January 19, 2001).] | ||
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Moderator 
Posts: 1676 |
I am a big supporter that sust is way over rated Personally i like using Testorivon Depot The reason is simple i DO make more weight and strength gains. Personally i think bloating is essential to any good mass stack, and for me Enanthate/T. depot does cause more water retention i will dissagree about the Human/Vet thing ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 754 |
I gotta agree with conan. Test enanthate (testoviron) has given me far better results than sus. | ||
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Freak
Posts: 1798 |
I didn't get to vote in my last post. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 147 |
Bro's, Testorivon Depot is what i normally use i use shering brand stuff cant remember how its spelt..! I dont bloat as i dont have a very high body fat % and any bloat i do have is slight and its normally the food which is causeing the bloat around my gut not the A/S I dunno if im right but i think the bloat my be due to water retention caused by elavated levels of eastogen...! My friend bloat's quite a bit and is tring armi to see if it stops it..! ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1169 |
The only true way one can compare a certain test versus another is my taking them individually for a set peroid of time with no other drug interactions (i.e. no "stacking"), eat exactly the same, and train exactly the same during these periods. How many of us actually do this? I highly doubt there are any... Therefore, we have to follow anecdotal evidence from individual use. Most of this is simply personal preference, which in essence means the drug of choice is more mental than physical. Possibly some people feel that true Organon Sustanon works better because they "believe" that it should work better. Fact is, test is test is test. How you use it, how you eat, how you train, and how you rest matters more than the brand or ester involved. Sustanon (Durateston, Omnadren) is made by Organon and Jelfa ("human"), and now by Ttokkyo and Loeffer ("vet"). Cypionate is the primary ester found on testosterone in the U.S., made by Upjohn and generic manufacturers ("human"), also made by Ttokkyo ("vet"). Enanthate is the primary ester found outside of the U.S. made by numerous companies -- too many to mention for both the human and vet markets. |
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posted January 18, 2001 10:46 PM
