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 Drinking and Juicing (HELP)
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 23 |
I'm in a fraternity, and we drink almost every night. I just started a cycle, will the drinking have severe effects on mass gains? Thanks for the help.     | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 191 |
bro, alcohol prevents protien from being utilized fully and to top it off you are going to add a lot more stress to your liver. it's not worth it. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 169 |
Plus it is a lot of empty calories and carbs, that are USELESS to feed your muscles and does not help you grow. Its all about sacrifice  Once in a while is ok, but in moderation! | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 638 |
just dump your gear in the garbage..it will have the same effect on your body | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 128 |
You definitely shouldn't be putting that shit in your body if you have to come on here and ask such a rediculous question. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 327 |
dude i got the perfect sollution for you so you could use your juice and drink at the same time. email me and i'll give you my address and you can mail your gear to me and then you could drink as much as you want. that would be your best bet!!!! | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 23 |
Damn, didn't mean to get you guys all worked up. It was a simple question, I'll heed your advice. Thanks for the sarcasm. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 206 |
i drink only on special occasions and would never drink on a cycle, I think alchohol is very detremental to gains/ motivation in the gym. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 340 |
No doubt about it. Once you go over 4 drinks in a sitting you are hindering your progress, many more drinks as you surely are consuming will really mess up your gains and body. I like to drink and relax here and there but I know not to go over that 4 drink barrier as that is when the trouble(fat gain, hang over, lack of motivation the next day, lowering of test levels, increase of estrogen , harming the liver, etc...) really begins. Take a valium instead with 2 beers and it will be better for your gains and workouts. Ever notice how soft and small you look the next morning after drinking? Not good! | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 615 |
I use black tar heroin when I'm on a cycle. It's easier on my liver  | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 788 |
Look, I am not going to bust your ass here...But, I not a bodybuilder, and the only thing I worry about is my Liver, I am in a frat as well. Just take everything in Moderation... Thats my advice to you..... | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 128 |
i wouldnt drink and do gear. you have to worry about more risk factors. sacrafice one of the two. and alcohol decreases testosterone production.. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 83 |
smoke some mad kb nugs. no stress on liver! fuck the estrogen theories, they=bs www.erowid.org | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 579 |
IF YOU WAN'T A NEW LIVER, THEN DRINK UP. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 37 |
it will mess your liver up if u drink every day ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 325 |
While you live in, it's almost impossible to make good gains. The food sucks and you can't ever get any sleep. I couldn't gain much while in the house and the constant push to drink every night was the worst. My advice is not to drink, just keep one in your hand. If this isn't possible, then better luck when you live out. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 860 |
its hard when your in a frat, I know. I ended up dropping due to the fact that I had no time, training was compromised, drank too much too often and had too many obligations to even worry about anything else. My advice to you is drink only occassionally, if you tell yourself your not going to drink because your on a cycle then you can have good self control. I did a fina cycle and only drank about 2-3 times throughout the 6 weeks I was on. Even now that I'm finished I'm not as concerned with drinking, training has become my priority, drinking has taken a back seat. I'm in my second year and shit I use to drink 3-4 nights every week. Now its maybe 1 night thats it. Instead of alcohol get ahold of some ghb or alternative, valiums or xanax or smoke a little more herb. Much more productive and wont kill your training and eating. Hope that helps. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1386 |
What the hell are you taking? And in what quantities? Anyway, why not just experiment? Drink and juice, then see the results. In my opinion, if you are educated in AS, you can drink and juice and still keep a lot of your gains, without killing your liver. Of course, alcoholism isn't good, but in my opinion you'll be okay if you keep your drinking fairly moderate. Just be careful about your diet, exercise, and post-cycle planning. Dexter ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1102 |
Juice+juice doesnt mix.  [This message has been edited by vdevil (edited January 19, 2001).] | ||
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Novice 
Posts: 7 |
Just save your beer money for some xtacy, stay happy and ripped!!! Its good for getting rid of water weight when you're looking to lean out too ;-) Some of you might think I'm stupid but if you research MDMA enough you'll find that it's safer then alcohol and better for you of course in moderation. Money may be an issue but its a great weekend release instead of filling your body full of toxins. People talk bad about x but its the best party drug there is. Also that site www.erowid.org that Blood_drinker posted earlier is an awesome site. Its the best non-steroid drug site that keeps me reading. [This message has been edited by mb2001 (edited January 19, 2001).] | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 553 |
I may be wrong but isn't X FULL OF TOXINS? When your body digests that pill it has to pass through the liver. I would think it would destroy your liver if you were juicing and throwing down tabs!! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 91 |
No, E is not particulary toxic to the liver, not like alcohol. However, there is evidence of CNS toxicity due to damage arising from free radicals. I like the theme of moderation in this discussion. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 17 |
Who gave you guys your information on MDMA...E is very toxic to the liver as well as the kidneys...it causes high blood pressure (which may be bad for some on AS). It is a no-no for anyone using a thermogenic or insulin... And the guy who said it is not toxic...only to the CNS...come on guys do you know how your body works...the CNS is incredible important for building muscle... Alcohol has been shown to lower testerone levels, etc...but it is still a better choice than MDMA...Dexter is right, in moderation it CAN be done...but why...~10 weeks away from the firewater would be good for you... | ||
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Novice
Posts: 9 |
I don't know about the whole E being better for you than drinking...Although it does really help you lose any unwanted water weight. And as far as drinking on a cycle, I think as long as your smart about it and drink maybe only 1 time a week I don't think it would significantly stunt your growth. As far as your liver goes, it really depends on what kind of gear you are using and how much. For example Primo isn't that bad for your liver.... Just my .02 | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 23 |
Thanks for the advice, I'll limit myself in the drinking department. I'm just stoked about being promoted to Cool Novice! By the way, for those of you who are wondering, I'm taking 2.5cc's of Brovel T200 for 8 weeks. It's a pretty light cycle, but that was what I was looking for. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 720 |
Vdevil, love your sig! | ||
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Moderator 
Posts: 1580 |
1. alcohol increases the production of aromatase...meaning if you are using an aromatic you will produce more estrogen--if not then this will be limited to you own natural test which will be curtailed anyways. 2. Cannabis contains phytoestrogens- it is in itself estrogenic. 3. ghb is non-toxic to the liver, does not increase estrogen- but does increase prolactin levels- it can in theory exacerbate estrogenic/progestenic effect- making gyno more likely. peace ------------------ | ||
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Guru
Posts: 4726 |
What Fratenity? ------------------
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 125 |
I had to bump this up for VDevils awesome sig. Creative thinking big guy. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 170 |
bro, DON NOT drink while using AS. it is really tough on the liver, and drinking kind of contradicts working out. Think about it! ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 289 |
Bro, I too am in a heavy drinking fraternity... you just have to sack up and not drink man. Its hard when everyone else is, beleive me, I know. Passing up the alchohol is just something you gotta do If you want good results. E | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 325 |
Guys used to rag on me bad. They would take me out and try to get me to drink. It's tough not to, but if you still go out and have a good time with your bros you'll get along. | ||
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Novice
Posts: 10 |
Just get huge without drinking. Sooner or later they'll stop trying to drag you out becuause you'll be friggen enormous. Then you can just kick all their asses, take over the frat house, and declare it you own independent nation. Then you'll be the supreme dictator of your own nation with frat girls fanning you and feeding you grapes...boy was college fun. [This message has been edited by HangingChad (edited January 19, 2001).] | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 23 |
That's the best fuking idea yet. But I can already kick all their asses. |
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posted January 18, 2001 08:34 PM
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