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el cubano

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posted January 18, 2001 06:51 PM

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Everybody knows that deca is great for helping alleviate sore joints, but what I need to know is if there are any medical studies that prove this! I am also in search of any medical research done to prove that deca will help to strengthen tendons and ligaments. I've already found some on how hGH improves elasticity and strength, but I can't find anything at all on deca. If anyone can help me out I'd appreciate it.

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Your_Moms_Kneepads

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posted January 18, 2001 07:06 PM

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Cubano, All the evidence seems anecdotal.

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Montecristo

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posted January 18, 2001 07:45 PM

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2000mg of glucosamine sulfate and 500mg chondroitin split into 4 doses a day. You can double that if your really sore. Works amazingly.

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el cubano

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posted January 18, 2001 07:50 PM

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Thanks monte, but that's not what I was looking for. Please read the post before you answer, no sarcasism intended.

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Montecristo

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posted January 18, 2001 07:53 PM

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look at tha i forgot how to read!!! and writre to! gotta cut back on the pain killerws!!! hehehee!!

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el cubano

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posted January 18, 2001 09:40 PM

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Aren't there any doc's in the house?

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muscle_downunder

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posted January 18, 2001 09:43 PM

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Bro i read somewhere that deca actually provides more fluid around the joints, which stops the pain. But im not sure of specifics.


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ulter

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Here are a couple that prove it increases bone mass and one that says it diminished vertebral pain. I found nothing that was joint specific.

Nandrolone decanoate for men with osteoporosis.

Hamdy RC, Moore SW, Whalen KE, Landy C

James H. Quillen College of Medicine, East Tennessee State University, Johnson City, TN USA.

To compare the efficacy and safety of nandrolone decanoate and calcium (NDC) with those of calcium alone (CAL) in men with idiopathic osteoporosis, a 12-month, randomized, prospective, controlled study, was performed in an outpatient clinic. Twenty-one men with idiopathic osteoporosis (as determined by radiological and dual energy x-ray absorptiometry findings) were randomly allocated to either 50 mg nandrolone decanoate intramuscularly (im) weekly and 1,000 mg oral calcium carbonate daily (NDC group) or to 1,000 mg oral calcium carbonate daily (CAL group). Bone densitometry (total body, left femur, and lumbar spine), serum, and urine biochemical parameters were measured at 3-month intervals. In the NDC group, bone mineral density initially increased, reached a plateau, and then decreased to near baseline levels at 12 months. Increases in lean muscle mass mirrored these changes. Free and total testosterone significantly decreased. Hemoglobin increased in all patients in this group. Patients in the CAL group exhibited no significant change in either total body or bone mineral density or biochemical parameters. Thus, nandrolone decanoate, 50 mg im weekly, transiently increases the bone mass of men with idiopathic osteoporosis in this preliminary study. Careful monitoring is necessary.

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Randomized controlled trial

PMID: 10099043, UI: 20091252

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Nandrolone decanoate: pharmacological properties and therapeutic use in osteoporosis.

Geusens P

Arthritis and Metabolic Bone Disease Research Unit, Katholieke Universiteit Leuven, Pellenberg, Belgium.

The therapeutic profile on bone of nandrolone decanoate is that of inhibitor of bone resorption with temporary increase in bone formation, followed by an absence of suppression of bone formation, indicating uncoupling of bone resorption and formation. This results is an increase in bone mineral content at the proximal and distal radius, and in some patients at the lumbar spine. Furthermore, nandrolone decanoate increases calcium balance and muscle mass, diminishes vertebral pain and increases the mobility of the spine.
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Long-term effect of nandrolone decanoate, 1 alpha-hydroxyvitamin D3 or intermittent calcium infusion therapy on bone mineral content, bone remodeling and fracture rate in symptomatic osteoporosis: a double-blind controlled study.

Geusens P, Dequeker J

Department of Internal Medicine, K.U. Leuven, Pellenberg, Belgium.

A double-blind controlled study was performed in 60 patients with symptomatic osteoporosis with at least one vertebral crush fracture, comparing the effect of nandrolone decanoate, 1 alpha-hydroxyvitamin D3 and intermittent calcium infusions. Thirty-four out of 60 patients completed the 2 year observation period. Nandrolone decanoate statistically significantly increased the bone mineral content at the radius, reduced the endosteal bone loss at the metacarpals and statistically significantly reduced urinary calcium and hydroxyproline excretion. Calcium infusions and 1 alpha-hydroxyvitamin D3 inhibited further loss of bone mineral content, but endosteal bone loss continued. In the second year fracture rate was reduced in the nandrolone decanoate groups compared to the two other groups. We conclude that nandrolone decanoate is an active drug for increasing bone mineral content and reducing endosteal bone loss, while 1 alpha-hydroxyvitamin D3 and calcium infusions only stop further bone mineral loss at the radius but do not inhibit endosteal bone loss as measured at the metacarpals and that single photon absorptiometry and radiography are complementary in interpreting cortical bone mineral changes.

Publication Types:
Clinical trial
Controlled clinical trial

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el cubano

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posted January 18, 2001 11:00 PM

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Ulter, that's great info, thanks. But is there anyone else out there with the answer? Is hGH the only thing that will strengthen tendons? All these studies I've read about steroids only talks about studies done on mice and rats where steroids just stiffened the tendons and ligaments thus leading them to believe that this is the reason the so many athletes have problems with pulling muscles and shit.

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posted January 18, 2001 11:06 PM

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It sounds like someone is trying to convince their Doctor that they need some Deca and GH...lol...

The bunch of fellas at StacksandWeights are using Laurabolin for the same reason, and they seem to be enjoying it.

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el cubano

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posted January 19, 2001 03:56 PM

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Wow, what a disappointment.

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