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 Will Aspartame prevent the entering of ketosis?
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Pro Bodybuilder 
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I drink alot of PepsiOne�. I think it might be preventing me from entering ketosis. Any knowledge on the subject would help. Also what about Crystal Light� Thanks bros ------------------     | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 38 |
Absolutely not. But, as you know, your Cinny Roll or Mashed potatoes will. And so will, your Olive Garden, your full Outback meal, etc. Sorry.. just gd hungry like you. DOC HUGE | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 110 |
Every body is different. Lyle McDonald has said that citric acid in jello can keep some people out. I can personally drink a couple of glasses of milk (26g carbs?) in a day and still stay in ketosis. Try ALA, like 200mg three times a day. It really helps. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 124 |
Keep in mind though that keto sticks pretty much tell you what happened yesterday. A better measure is a blood glucose meter. Andy | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 112 |
I don't think there is any aspartame in Pepsi One anyway. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 110 |
Andy: I think you're right for the average sedentary person who has lots of unused ketones floating around while on an keto diet. I myself dislike the idea of multiple finger pricks, so I have played around with ketosticks extensively trying to find an alternative. Here are my observations: When I lift, do cardio, and remain active on a keto diet, the ketosticks show very little (if any) ketone bodies due to them being used up as fuel. But usually an hour after a meal (60% fat, 40% protein), the ketostick will turn towards the higher levels of purple. So as long as I remain active during the diet, I tend to use up most of the avaliable ketones in the blood and can use the sticks to tell--basically in real time--if I am still in ketosis. How? If after a meal (and no further physical exertion) I do not get a reaction on the ketosticks, I know something is wrong. However, I can also typically tell my state of ketosis through such lovely tells as: bad breath, urine smell, or even ammonia smell during heavy cardio. | ||
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Cool Novice
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Where can I get information on this type of diet? | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 406 |
ALA is a great way to drop blood glucose as you try to enter ketosis, but if it is citric acid keeping you out, then I don't think it will have an effect. As for wether o not citric acid and aspartame actually WILL keep you out, it tends to vary from person to person. But in general, when I'm doing a CKD, I personally don't care what the ketosticks say - as long as I am losing BF, I'm happy. In Dr. Mauro DiPasquale's Anabolic Diet, he recommends, despite running a 60% fat/35% protein/5% carb nutrient ratio, to stay OUT of ketosis, so I don't think ketosis itself is what makes these diets great, rather the hormonal shift that they provide, which is so condusive to the fat burning process. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 255 |
It probably the caffeine. Caffeine can DEFINITELY kick you out of ketosis. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 113 |
Italian...check out the books "Bodyopus" by Dan Duchaine and "The Ketogenic Diet" by Lyle McDonald. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 198 |
caffeine can keep you out? wtf? ive never heard of anyone doin a keto diet without a ECA/ECY of some sort. im on a SKD right now, and caffeine keeps my alive when I have to get up for work at 6am. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 252 |
Please explain how caffeine keeps you out of ketosis? It mobilizes fatty acids and enhances/prolongs the response to EPH. F1 | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 198 |
thats what i was thinking, any explanation guyz? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 110 |
Since everyone is unique, maybe Stonecold is one very unlucky person. Everyone uses an ECA stack, and I pound coffee as well. Never had a problem with it. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 421 |
I think I know where some of you bros are hearing that caffeine can prevent ketosis. If you go to the atkins website, Dr. atkins talks about this. But I don't go by what he says because his diet is not designed for bodybuilders, where Duchane and Mcdonald's books are. Any one here negetive things about caffiene from Duchane or Mcdonald's? I havn't read there books so thats why I ask. I trust there knowledge more. ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 378 |
F1 is right, to my knowledge, I have never read nor met anyone who has been effected by caffeine. Atkins has been preaching this crap for years, and it is totally wrong and misunderstood in my mind. But then again, I hardly read anything that this guys writes, so he may have changed his "philosophy" on this, I don't know. Regarding the Aspartame, at the doses it is supplied in, it will NOT kick you out of ketosis. Most diet colas have "up to" 225 mg of aspartame, which means if you drank a 12-pack of diet coke, then this would come out to be around 2700mg (or 2.7 grams). Aspartame does have 4 kcal per gram, but as you can see, even after drinking a whole 12-pack of diet coke, it would only be 10.8 calories (2.7 grams). The packets of Aspartame (eg Equal) only have a measley 37 mg. in each. In order to get one gram (yes, 4 calories), you would have to consume 27 packets. Aspartame is 150-200 times sweeter than sucrose (table sugar). Therefore, even though it has the same nutritive value, it only takes a fraction of the compound to get the same effectiveness (sweetness) as sucrose. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 421 |
Hey guys. I have an e-mail contact with Dave Palumbo. If some of you don't know who dave is, he's a very well respected bodybuilder who has multiple college degrees. I think he almost became a docter or something. "ASPARTAME is an artificial sweetener consisting of the two amino acids-- phenylalanine and aspartic acid-- that when ingested "tastes" sweet. This sweet taste can sometimes trick your body into releasing insulin (something undesireable on the ketogenic diet); however, we must realize that although insulin is released, there are still no carbohydrates present. ASPARTAME, therefore, may cause LIGHTHEADEDNESS due to too much insulin release, however, it will not take a person out of ketosis." -Dave Palumbo ------------------ |
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posted January 17, 2001 05:05 PM